Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
It may be helpful to state the definition.

Toxic - very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way.
Its why I used the streamer and youtuber examples, its a lot more closer to the original meaning when compared to how its been used a lot lately as a buzzword. Those people were being fairly toxic. But the people harassing Asmongold? Within that original definition no they were just being annoying.

So at this point we have to look at intent, and with what we've seen if we're to beleieve its true, they had a toxic intent, tho the means by which they did what they did isn't toxic. To look at the base term within the MMO space Toxic is used more so as short hand for someone being rude or mean. Some behaviours may fall into the actual dictionary term of Toxic, but in my experience with the older FF community and WoWs community I would say those behaviours are usually from people who arent putting others within healthy situations, being manupulative, gas lighting etc. But I would also say within my own experiences such situations were rare™ as many were embarassed to speak about it openly back then, or simply wanted to move on from said situations.

So The shorthand term used in the MMO space has changed a lot over the years, and the text book term where in someone is being: "Toxic - very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way" is something thats a lot more nuanced then what most people realized. And I hope more people can realize that, and stop using the term for something as simple as "Hey you shouldn't be only spamming medica 1" , when something more like what People have done within MMOs for a long time which is manipulate people for their own ends is more so Toxic.