Toxicity and Community

[Dzian]

Toxicitiy is just a banket bomb statement that's basically lost all its meaning because it gets thrown around far too much about absolutely anything and everything a player may happen to disagree with..

the community on the whole is no where near as toxic as its made out to be. its just that people use that word because it's well basically fashionable at the minute.. it's a word that essentially carries as much credibility as the word casual..

casual gamers are seen as low skilled terrible entitled impatient and a million other things when a causal is really just someone who plays less frequently...

toxic basically is the same thing. anything anyone disagrees with is basically lavbelled as toxic.

want a reward go do the content the same way as everyone else... (such a toxc opinion because i want the reward handed to me)
want to do content set up a practice party in party finder same way everyone else does. (such a toxic opinion because i want to be carried)
hey you'd play your job much better if you did xyz rotation (stop telling me how to play you toxic elitist you dont pay my sub)
content is too difficult make it easier... "well you could you know stop watching netflix and actually try". (thats so toxic i dont play the game to be a second job)
i want a legacy chocobo mount because you have one (so toxic to keep it exclusive)
housing is toxic (cos i cant get a house....)

the list goes on. (it was longr but i tried to generalize it)

but it is a vastly overused word for literally anything someone does like or agree with...

blue is better than green.... god thats so toxic green is awesome why you so toxic and full of hate??

the only thing thats actually toxic in the game is the lainess and entitlement many players have. as that has a huge impact on the game for everyone else.... if you take raiding for example..

everyone says its so toxic because they need a static to do it and don't have to time to make those massive commitments they should just be able to get a group and get carried...

however that is the exact attitude that has totally destroyed the raid finder in the west. because everyone expects to be carried only to then complain noones wants to carry them or no one uses the raid finder tool precisely because it was so full of entitled people who just wanted to be carried.

by contrast in the east where players arent lazy or entitled.. literally everyone can get the content they want done.. people even pug ultimates on the jp side.....

but over here expecting players to make a tiny amount of effort is the most toxic crime of all....

[ReynTime]

want a reward go do the content the same way as everyone else... (such a toxc opinion because i want the reward handed to me)
want to do content set up a practice party in party finder same way everyone else does. (such a toxic opinion because i want to be carried)
hey you'd play your job much better if you did xyz rotation (stop telling me how to play you toxic elitist you dont pay my sub)
content is too difficult make it easier... "well you could you know stop watching netflix and actually try". (thats so toxic i dont play the game to be a second job)
i want a legacy chocobo mount because you have one (so toxic to keep it exclusive)
housing is toxic (cos i cant get a house....)

Literally never seen that confusion at all. The carry complaints are about people who don't pull their own weight, don't use essences, etc, and still want the rewards or clears.

[Dzian]

Literally never seen that confusion at all. The carry complaints are about people who don't pull their own weight, don't use essences, etc, and still want the rewards or clears.

are your eyes closed?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Savage-content.

less than 15 seconds skimming general discussion and you'll find this.. and thats just 1 example.if you spent a few minutes looking youd find dozens..

maybe not specific but as i said i did try and generakize the examples abit rahter than having 10 or 20 examples that were basically the same just generalized it into 1 or 2.

but even in that thread about DR and essences you see it.. anyone who expects players to use essences is basically toxic...