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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    If it slow at 4K then lower the resoulution.

    Cheers
    Thank goodness not everyone thinks like this or nothing would ever improve.

    Still think this game would benefit immensely from FSR/DLSS implementations, AA improvements, optimizations etc... I'm really, really hoping the graphics update goes beyond shaders and textures. In fact, this game only stands to benefit monetarily for investing BIG into its graphics. See a lot of players stay in this game because they genuinely like the world, their characters and glams. The people that only play the story and quit aren't anywhere near as profitable as those that stay and keep playing to farm all the items etc... So investing in what they want, which is visuals and replayability is a great move IMO. It will ensure the game doesn't become considered outdated and dwindle. Like FFXI did. Thankfully it still has a small userbase keeping the game profitable.

    Had FFXI received constant graphical updates including UI and gameplay elements... I believe it would still be attracting people to this day. But alas, it withered and getting back into those PS2 era UIs and graphics is a tall ask of new players.

    At any rate updating graphics is hard and cumbersome, this is a big ask. I hope the Devs see a big pay off from it. I know for one I didn't quit after EW because of the graphics update anouncement. I was thinking the game was starting to look outdated and maybe it was a good time to call it and move on. But then this happened, and so they can enjoy my 2 years of subs and mog station purchases. If its a good graphics update and they keep improving things they have me on the hook for several more years. I already like their story telling and game play elements so its safe to say I am content if they keep those up as is.

    I did quit XI cause XI was looking outdated and XIV looked a lot better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Thank goodness not everyone thinks like this or nothing would ever improve.

    Still think this game would benefit immensely from FSR/DLSS implementations, AA improvements, optimizations etc... I'm really, really hoping the graphics update goes beyond shaders and textures. In fact, this game only stands to benefit monetarily for investing BIG into its graphics. See a lot of players stay in this game because they genuinely like the world, their characters and glams. The people that only play the story and quit aren't anywhere near as profitable as those that stay and keep playing to farm all the items etc... So investing in what they want, which is visuals and replayability is a great move IMO. It will ensure the game doesn't become considered outdated and dwindle. Like FFXI did. Thankfully it still has a small userbase keeping the game profitable.

    Had FFXI received constant graphical updates including UI and gameplay elements... I believe it would still be attracting people to this day. But alas, it withered and getting back into those PS2 era UIs and graphics is a tall ask of new players.

    At any rate updating graphics is hard and cumbersome, this is a big ask. I hope the Devs see a big pay off from it. I know for one I didn't quit after EW because of the graphics update anouncement. I was thinking the game was starting to look outdated and maybe it was a good time to call it and move on. But then this happened, and so they can enjoy my 2 years of subs and mog station purchases. If its a good graphics update and they keep improving things they have me on the hook for several more years. I already like their story telling and game play elements so its safe to say I am content if they keep those up as is.

    I did quit XI cause XI was looking outdated and XIV looked a lot better.
    not by much really. I would wish for FFXIV to have a bit more style and color like some of the PS2 era artstyles. Im personally not a huge fan of pseudo-fantasy realism but Ive grown to be ok with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Thank goodness not everyone thinks like this or nothing would ever improve.

    Still think this game would benefit immensely from FSR/DLSS implementations, AA improvements, optimizations etc... I'm really, really hoping the graphics update goes beyond shaders and textures. In fact, this game only stands to benefit monetarily for investing BIG into its graphics. See a lot of players stay in this game because they genuinely like the world, their characters and glams. The people that only play the story and quit aren't anywhere near as profitable as those that stay and keep playing to farm all the items etc... So investing in what they want, which is visuals and replayability is a great move IMO. It will ensure the game doesn't become considered outdated and dwindle. Like FFXI did. Thankfully it still has a small userbase keeping the game profitable.

    Had FFXI received constant graphical updates including UI and gameplay elements... I believe it would still be attracting people to this day. But alas, it withered and getting back into those PS2 era UIs and graphics is a tall ask of new players.

    At any rate updating graphics is hard and cumbersome, this is a big ask. I hope the Devs see a big pay off from it. I know for one I didn't quit after EW because of the graphics update anouncement. I was thinking the game was starting to look outdated and maybe it was a good time to call it and move on. But then this happened, and so they can enjoy my 2 years of subs and mog station purchases. If its a good graphics update and they keep improving things they have me on the hook for several more years. I already like their story telling and game play elements so its safe to say I am content if they keep those up as is.

    I did quit XI cause XI was looking outdated and XIV looked a lot better.
    The irony being that what they suggest is in fact one of the things DLSS does...
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    Don't touch me there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrhin View Post
    The irony being that what they suggest is in fact one of the things DLSS does...
    If they only implemented DLSS that would lock out people who use AMD GPU's, Intel GPU's or GTX 10/16 series and older card users.


    Believe it or not, a lot of people still use GPU's like the 1660, 1660 Ti/Super, 1050, 1050 Ti, RX 480, RX 580, 1060 etc.

    There's also likely to be people buying in to the new Intel A750/A770 coming out on 12th Oct.


    DLSS would also lock out console users as the PS5 uses AMD hardware.



    FSR would be the more logical one to implement if they can't do both due to engine limitations as FSR works on any kind of GPU.


    FSR is also easier on a developer's side of things to implement than DLSS and isn't that much worse than DLSS 2.0.

    You need to really pixel peep to see the difference.
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    Last edited by NightHour; 10-17-2022 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    If they only implemented DLSS that would lock out people who use AMD GPU's, Intel GPU's or GTX 10/16 series and older card users.


    Believe it or not, a lot of people still use GPU's like the 1660, 1660 Ti/Super, 1050, 1050 Ti, RX 480, RX 580, 1060 etc.

    There's also likely to be people buying in to the new Intel A750/A770 coming out on 12th Oct.


    DLSS would also lock out console users as the PS5 uses AMD hardware.

    Implementing DLSS would require reworking the rendering engine so there's temporal image data for the middleware to work with. Likewise, an implementation of AMD FSR 2.0 or Intel XeSS would also require the same. However, doing this would also allow TAA to be added. It's the kind of thing that wouldn't see happening until an expansion launch as they could release it alongside the first part of the graphics overhaul. That said, there's no reason why this couldn't just enable TAA, DLSS 2.0 (maybe even 3.0 as well), FSR 2.0 and XeSS all at the same time. Console users would still benefit from TAA/FSR and the PC audience can choose whatever works best on their hardware as well.
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    They should port the engine to DirectX 12 or Vulkan first. It will also give a nice performance boost because the runtime overhead is way smaller.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Thank goodness not everyone thinks like this or nothing would ever improve.
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    Ummm, you know how DLSS/FSR internally works, right? It lowers the resoultion for you, scales the lowres picture up to your desired resolution and puts a sharpen filter on it. That's it. But you will still get a picture with a lower resolution. But to play with a lower resolution you do not need DLSS. You can set it ingame manually.

    Cheers
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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 09-25-2022 at 11:13 PM.