Level 50 quests, solution "softener"

[Swimcito]

Hi, so yeah the infinite ammounts of level 50 quests are annoying, i am about to be in my last batch of quests, almost 15 more to get to Before Dawn.

I was thinking however and knowing that probably a complete makeover would require lot of dev time.

I have a simple solution....

Make the quests give 6x the XP it gives ... being somewhat worth it. Its still not much, but at least you would get a level or two out of it.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Then people can out-level the content even more than they already do.

[Avenger]

They give tiny amounts of xp but that is slightly better than the 0 xp that they used to give.

The solution to overleveling is to dump msq xp into multiple jobs.

[Kes13a]

the number of level 50 quests after the Praetorium and before Heavenward are a result of how the game re-released.

also the way post end of the main story work. yes it can seem a lot.

however, post Shadowbringers there are 51.

Post Heavensward, 40ish

Post Stormblood, 40

yes, it seems like a bit of a slog, but in a lot of ways, they are just setting things up. might work better if they halved the experience, but then leveling would seem slow. its a hard one to fix satisfactorily to be fair. they did streamline it a bit recently but it is a bit slower seeming than everything else since there are a lot of bits to move into place. after Heavenward to present though... it doesnt seem like there are enough quests...

[Fyrebrand]

Giving more xp wouldn't reduce the amount of quests. I don't see how this proposed "solution" fixes any perceived problem.

[Jirah]

L M F A O

Name one ONE person that every lists being under-levied as a major issue in the game as of 5.5. I constantly see people triple the level Req to a point where they don’t do job quests are start unlocking lv60 skills before Ultimate weapon. If anything The games over-courteous with EXP undermining its own content like fates leves beast tribes roulettes and side quests, and some cases getting clueless mains at 80 due to , at the same time, dungeons being easy as hell and scaled poorly at the base

[van_arn]

Hi, so yeah the infinite ammounts of level 50 quests are annoying, i am about to be in my last batch of quests, almost 15 more to get to Before Dawn.

I was thinking however and knowing that probably a complete makeover would require lot of dev time.

I have a simple solution....

Make the quests give 6x the XP it gives ... being somewhat worth it. Its still not much, but at least you would get a level or two out of it.

I can understand why the push from Praetorium to Heavensward can be miserable. Grats on toughing it out for so long; you're almost there.

I agree this series needs a better push to keep people involved, but I'm not sure experience is the solution. You're likely overleveled as it is, and levels don't really have any meaning until you get to relevant content for that level.

I can't think of what specific incentive I'd give to new players working through these quests. I'd rather they just take the red pen to the series again, but that likely won't happen.

[kaynide]

It’s come up before, but just to restate: a lot of the fluff can be cut from required MSQ and made into side quests. There is no need at this point in development to have a bloated “between expansion” quest chain for early expansions.

[Jojoya]

It’s come up before, but just to restate: a lot of the fluff can be cut from required MSQ and made into side quests. There is no need at this point in development to have a bloated “between expansion” quest chain for early expansions.

They've already cut most of the fluff from post-ARR MSQ. There are a couple of stray pieces that could probably go

(does the WoL really need to resort to bullying people for information about the refugee riot when that could have been done by a couple of Flames or Sultansworn?)

but there's really not that much that isn't needed. Just about everything left provides information related to something that happens later.

The last thing I want here is for it to end up like WoW where you don't know what the heck is going when a new expansion starts because the set up took place in a book or pre-patch event that was in the game only 2 weeks before being removed. Players shouldn't be forced into side content to understand what's happening in the main story. It's bad enough that Crystal Tower is now required.

[kaynide]

They've already cut most of the fluff from post-ARR MSQ. There are a couple of stray pieces that could probably go

(does the WoL really need to resort to bullying people for information about the refugee riot when that could have been done by a couple of Flames or Sultansworn?)

but there's really not that much that isn't needed. Just about everything left provides information related to something that happens later.

The last thing I want here is for it to end up like WoW where you don't know what the heck is going when a new expansion starts because the set up took place in a book or pre-patch event that was in the game only 2 weeks before being removed. Players shouldn't be forced into side content to understand what's happening in the main story. It's bad enough that Crystal Tower is now required.

The entire sequence leading up to Brayflox (essentially fetch quests to make a feast) could be neatly done in maybe 3 quests.. Maybe one with the imposter, 1 delivery and then the actual braflox dungeon.

Or in Coerthas, one place has us track down a mob, kill it, deliver it, then deliver 3 cooked steaks. This could just have been 1 quest with all of the same information storywise contained. We need not actually deliver steaks to people in the same room we got the quest.

..and that’s the general problem with a lot of the quest chains. You could get the gist of it and keep the actual story beats in maybe 1/3 of the quests. When the game is new it makes sense to pad it out to retain players, but we are at a point it should get another cull maybe by end of 6.x.