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    Unfortunate reality of old systems in MMOs is to just get left in the past. I mean, if serious dev time was spent on a system that is already obsolete and rarely used, would it suddenly start finding use in the community? Maybe…, or would people scream about wasted dev time and “why didn’t they just make a new DD??”?

    Sometimes it’s better to just cut it off and start fresh/try something else. If the team has extra time for a kind of TLC update, great! I’d love to see some overhaul here and there…and maybe a removal of needlessly complicated things…but until they have that kinda budget/dev team, I’d rather they keep doin what they’re doin.

    In response to why we have less total content.. I dunno.. I mean if they just made a new deep dungeon, it would be significantly easier to copy paste code than to make the entire Bozja system. So while there might be less end product for us to physically do, the code and man-hours put in are probably similar, and moreover the code put into place allows future systems based on the new code to be easier to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Unfortunate reality of old systems in MMOs is to just get left in the past. I mean, if serious dev time was spent on a system that is already obsolete and rarely used, would it suddenly start finding use in the community? Maybe…, or would people scream about wasted dev time and “why didn’t they just make a new DD??”?

    Sometimes it’s better to just cut it off and start fresh/try something else. If the team has extra time for a kind of TLC update, great! I’d love to see some overhaul here and there…and maybe a removal of needlessly complicated things…but until they have that kinda budget/dev team, I’d rather they keep doin what they’re doin.
    Arguably, old systems are obsolete and rarely used because the devs don't do anything with them after release, they could release them flawed and leave them to rot, or have a great release that becomes dated as they don't get new things, but leave these to rot instead of improving and refreshing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Arguably, old systems are obsolete and rarely used because the devs don't do anything with them after release, they could release them flawed and leave them to rot, or have a great release that becomes dated as they don't get new things, but leave these to rot instead of improving and refreshing them.
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    Step 1: Half-ass implementations for a given system.
    Step 2: Stop iterating on the system.
    Step 3: "Well, you wouldn't want us to waste time on something no one plays, would you?"
    Step 4: Receive praise for "pragmatism" and/or "making the hard decisions."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Arguably, old systems are obsolete and rarely used because the devs don't do anything with them after release, they could release them flawed and leave them to rot, or have a great release that becomes dated as they don't get new things, but leave these to rot instead of improving and refreshing them.
    I haven’t done any of the guildhests or guildleves outside of those specifically required by the main story (achievement? Or to just check it off to say I did them once?), and I’ve been here since more or less day 1. They were dead content on arrival for me. The hall of the novice effectively has effectively replaced the guildhest system entirely and perhaps should be rolled together to teach mechanics.

    I mean, good or bad, SE doesn’t bash their head on a wall trying to make something bad work for too long. They did a little with Diadem, but mostly if it isn’t so popular they move on and try something else. Some cases I think that’s a good call, others like Blu I think should get a little more refinement time.
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