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    Garten's Avatar
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    I want a true Blacklist

    I want a true Blacklist, one that when i blacklist someone i will not be trown in ANY istance where that person is.
    It can work like this, if both of us queue for something the first of us that queued get to entry, the other one go on queue for the next free spot/wathever.

    Is there a way to start a petition or something?
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    Player TroySoFab's Avatar
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    How many people are you blacklisting? Seems extremely rare that you actually get instanced with someone more than once. I've been playing this game for years and I have never been thrown into any instance with someone I've seen before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    How many people are you blacklisting? Seems extremely rare that you actually get instanced with someone more than once. I've been playing this game for years and I have never been thrown into any instance with someone I've seen before.
    Your avatar is super cute.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    I don't think this could ever work. We can't have Duty Finder scanning every player's blacklists and trying to rearrange every queue to accommodate this. DF has no way to tell WHY you blacklisted someone. You could potentially just grief other players by making them wait longer if you happen to get in ahead of them, or just be elitist and blacklist them because they're "bad".

    Also, if I happen to get grouped with you through DF and you blacklisted Person A, do I now have to wait longer because of your preferences? No thankyou!

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Seems extremely rare that you actually get instanced with someone more than once. I've been playing this game for years and I have never been thrown into any instance with someone I've seen before.
    I've actually had this happen a few times, where I'll see the same person twice in a row. I think it was just because we both happened to be farming the same content. But yeah, definitely not something that happens commonly enough to bother overhauling Duty Finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I don't think this could ever work. We can't have Duty Finder scanning every player's blacklists and trying to rearrange every queue to accommodate this.
    That sounds like an absolute nightmare haha.
    From this alone I can see why the black list has some of its limits.

    But... I'm not all that experienced with other MMOs... do any of them have the kind of "true black list" OP is asking for? Is there precedent for this working? Or has it only been realized (if ever) in MMOs that aren't as instanced centric as FF14?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    How many people are you blacklisting? Seems extremely rare that you actually get instanced with someone more than once. I've been playing this game for years and I have never been thrown into any instance with someone I've seen before.
    I was doing content for my shadowbringers relic and kept getting the same people in my df groups many times in a row. Made sense as we were all doing the same relic step at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I was doing content for my shadowbringers relic and kept getting the same people in my df groups many times in a row. Made sense as we were all doing the same relic step at the same time.
    Yeah, not saying it can't ever happen. Just seems like an extremely rare thing, and we don't need more stuff being done to DF to accommodate that. Resources could be used elsewhere, and fixing things that aren't broken usually ends up making it broken. I'd suggest just waiting a few minutes before re-queuing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    Your avatar is super cute.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Yeah, not saying it can't ever happen. Just seems like an extremely rare thing, and we don't need more stuff being done to DF to accommodate that. Resources could be used elsewhere, and fixing things that aren't broken usually ends up making it broken.
    That blacklisting doesn't prevent you from being matched into an instance with the person you blacklisted is broken to me. If I blacklist someone I want to have zero contact with them and do absolutely nothing with them.

    I shouldn't have to leave a group and get a penalty just because the blacklist system was made by someone who fails to understand that being thrown into a group with someone who was horrible to you can ruin your day. I fortunately haven't been matched with someone I blacklisted but I know someone who has. They were matched with someone who bullied them and it upset them so much they didn't log in again for days. Blacklisting is supposed to protect players from unpleasant situations and in its current state it's not doing that as well as it could.

    Also blacklist slots aren't numerous enough for it to cause a problem for queue times.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 07-06-2021 at 10:03 AM.

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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I was doing content for my shadowbringers relic and kept getting the same people in my df groups many times in a row. Made sense as we were all doing the same relic step at the same time.
    Was it the PoTD or HoH step? Because coming across the same people for those steps is not uncommon if you are spamming floor 51-60 and floor 21-30.

    For all other content though, it's extremely rare to come across the same people.

    I'd recommend OP to either change their preferred settings to all languages, or move to a data center that is not dead
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