Open World PvP

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important part bolded.

Most of the people in this thread are not against content they won't engage in. They are against content they will be forced to be engaged in, have to change their current playstyle to avoid, and/or content that changes what they currently find "fun" about the game.


I hate Eureka. I rarely engage in EX-Ultimates.

Both are fine to be expanded. While I have my gripes about locking the relics and dyable armor behind them.. they aren't detracting from what I enjoy in the game and I can choose to engage in them at will.

Precisely. Expand Savage/Ultimate, expand/improve PVP, expand on Triple Triad. NONE of those things are things I engage in much (I do pvp here and there, but only because there are a few glams I want that are only obtained via Wolf Marks). I'm fine with all that getting more attention even though none of those things are among the aspects of the game that I really care about.

I don't know how or why the idea of opt-in open world pvp got conflated with NON opt-in open world pvp, because it seems to me that the vast, vast majority of opposition to "open-world pvp" has been if it's not opt-in. Yes, there's also some "I don't want to see too much dev time devoted to something I don't care about." Personally, I don't generally worry about that sort of thing; I get that people play the game for a variety of reasons and engage in a variety of content, so I'm cool with some dev time/resources being devoted to things I don't care about, even if that could theoretically be "at the expense of" work on content I DO care about. There can be exceptions, like if I just think something is really really worthless and would rather not see time and resources devoted to it, but that's not too common for me.

But LOTS of people in this playerbase DO care about that. There's no sense in singling out people who say this of PVP because people say this about all kinds of content - "I don't want to see (X) because I don't want the limited dev time/resources to be used on it."

That said, open-world pvp that is NOT opt-in is a terrible idea. And I'd hazard a guess that said mode of "forced" open-world pvp participation is what the VAST majority of the "anti" people in this thread (possibly 100% of them) are against. Other than discussions of it simply not being viable (because the dev team likely wouldn't be able to do a good job to implement it in a satisfying way and make the systems for it work, etc.), I don't really see people being against opt-in world pvp on principle. And for my part, if they COULD make opt-in open-world pvp work well, in a way that pvp-enthusiasts would find fun, without having to spend a disproportionately high amount of time working on it (i.e. spending way too much time/energy on it compared to other somewhat niche content), then hey sure, why not.