Open World PvP

[Anhra]

Big news everyone, the original post now has 9 likes, in only 27 pages!

Surely the developers must respond to this massive swell of public opinion and pull another 2.0 so we can all gank sprouts in the Black Shroud.

Ganking spouts would only be fun for a limited time until you get bored of it. Personally, i would prefer to just storm Limsa with a bunch of likeminded idiots and kill everyone near the aetheryte (if that were possible).

[Deceptus]

You think you want PvP but you really don't, It does nothing but bring out the worst in people.

Use WoW as a case study. PvP servers are absolutely terrible, especially if you're in the minority faction.

[Eldevern]

PVP... we love fair fights! We love competition!...

When actuals PVP players gank, GK and join the most powerful faction just to harass others.

And it ends like Aion with orda-suicide, easy PA, easy stuff, win trade, no PVP anymore. Unless it be possible to twink... for GK.

Fair fight. Fair gameplay. Really.

Be surprised that one of the first decisions about PVP in FFXIV was to... synchronize everyone stuff end delete materia and gear levels. And people to cry they can't GK anymore.

[Kes13a]

Supposing SE decides to implement this based off one post in general, lets look at a hypothetical timeline based on what I have seen and experienced in other mmo's (who have done it from the ground up, not as an afterthought years into the game)

1. SE opens pvp labeled worlds for open world pvp
2. initial rush of transfers/new users thinking "PVP!"
3. pvp happens, with all the good and bad aspects of it
4. people either transfer off or create new characters on regular worlds so they can reasonably progress without protection
5. people start complaining that pvp gets no love and there should be more incentives to pvp
6. push to unlock open world pvp on regular worlds because there arent enough players on pvp worlds and its no fun
7. name calling starts because people not that interested in the pvp lifestyle are "ruining the game"
8. SE looks for ways to merge the pvp worlds so the few people on each have more opponents
or, 8A. SE closes the pvp worlds as a failed experiment
9. people wanting pvp start over again, asking for a "better" version of pvp and this time they are SURE it will attract more people if its better

not to mention, if they DID do this, there would have to be city safe zone, so no wandering into Limsa to kill people since the city states frown on wanton murder, and why should SE want the WoL wantonly butchering people out in the open world in the first place with zero consequences? it is difficult to see this concept flying even if they noticed this thread and gave it a read.

[KizuyaKatogami]

And yet no one is giving SE credit for the new content they added. They only complain that there are fewer dungeons added without mentioning the multizone combat like Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor, or the Firmament (granted the latter will have no interest for someone who is looking for combat content).

Just because you aren't interested in what content did get added doesn't mean there is less content. There's just less that is of interest to you (and I'm going to be highly disappointed if you're actively participating in Bozja/Zadnor at the same time you're complaining about fewer dungeons).

Funny how you assume i just meant dungeons. Also missing deep dungeon, Hildibrand questline, Dnc and Gnb primal weapons, Gnb and Dnc new ultimate weapon models, missing a bozja zone, no voiced weapons trials, no voiced alli raids, etc etc i could keep going. Why would you be disappointed if i’m participating in bozja/zadnor while complaining? It’s one of the few pieces of content that at least passes the time, then again i completed zadnor in a day so nevermind.

[KizuyaKatogami]

What even is this last part? You totally had me up until this point, but then you had to let the mad dog loose

It’s kind of funny to me too because everyone uses it’s an ff game excuse,when Yoshi P himself has stated he wants this game to have multiple elements of other mmo’s. He wants to have something for everyone and he doesn’t want someone to have to go to another game because of something this game doesn’t have.

[SturmChurro]

It’s kind of funny to me too because everyone uses it’s an ff game excuse,when Yoshi P himself has stated he wants this game to have multiple elements of other mmo’s. He wants to have something for everyone and he doesn’t want someone to have to go to another game because of something this game doesn’t have.

That's ironic. Since this is apparently not a PvP game, so "people should go elsewhere for PvP". Funny thing is, when players want high end PvE content this "isn't the game for them" either. I think only casual content requests are allowed here.

Oh please no. No open world PvP. One of the worst things about WoW was open world PvP. Some of you think you want this, but you absolutely do not. It would be a waste of dev resources, against the lore, and breed toxicity.

I don't know if there are really PvP servers now, but my WoW characters were on Illidan, and I had literally no issues.

[Fland]

I don't know why people keep saying it'd be opt in when OP makes it clear they want to track down people they don't like and slaughter them. How'd that work out with opt in?

[KageTokage]

The only reason I'd want this is if it means I can kill all those annoying bots I see out and about 24/7.

That was one of the blessings of being on a open PvP server in WoW.

[DPZ2]

This thread is still going? Yeesh.

Here's a thought. Perhaps Square Enix doesn't want the association of the "Warrior of Light" with a gang of what we who also play Dungeons and Dragons refer to as "Murder Hobos"?

There must be a reason this game is more popular than the PvP-centric MMORPGs.