Ivalice may not continue

[KizuyaKatogami]

That's part of why I plan to leave after I finish 6.0.
Aside from gameplay changes that have not sat well with me, the points I care about in the main story are either getting wrapped up or never being revisited or expanded upon again (including a lot of stuff teased in 1.X and 2.X).

I think this is the case for many people, myself and friends included. The stories we find interesting and well written are getting dropped in favor of the more popular yet dull plot lines and story elements like the constant amount of fluff in the game. After 6.0 there will be more interesting mmo’s out anyways, so i’m just biding time until then. This and 5.3 was the last straw for me personally.

[Wyssahtyn]

Good. Ivalice was basically just a rehashed Tactics with a bare minimum of effort put in to fit into XIV, not to mention the fact they retconned Dalmasca's location from Ilsabard to Othard rubs me the wrong way. And Bozja's story was asinine. Stopped paying attention to it after the whole Misja or however you spell her name thing, not to mention the shit with Mikoto.

Also, what a dark timeline to live in where Matsuno moves on from XIV without any fanfare and farewell, while Yoko Taro who gave us some of the worst writing in XIV in years is invited on for the next Live Letter.

While I don't care for either of their writing, it's pretty bad that we're going to have to suffer through yet more Yoko Taro before finally (hopefully) being done with him. Guy's probably going to drop some Just As Planned BS during the Live Letter that'll have his fanboys frothing harder at the mouth with their nonsense.

[Theodric]

I thought Matsuno did a pretty excellent job at making everything that he brought to the table fit into FFXIV. It didn't just fit into the game world, it actively expanded on existing plot elements in a way that I found to be very intriguing.

Given that we hadn't even visited Othard until Stormblood, I didn't see the 'retcon' of Dalmasca's location to be that big of a deal. I'm reminded of the claim by some in regards to male viera where they supposedly should not have been added because of the 'integrity' of the lore. (Putting aside the fact that this supposed 'integrity' is rarely, if ever, applied fairly across the board.)

[KizuyaKatogami]

Good. Ivalice was basically just a rehashed Tactics with a bare minimum of effort put in to fit into XIV, not to mention the fact they retconned Dalmasca's location from Ilsabard to Othard rubs me the wrong way.

Sorry but i respectfully heavily disagree with this. The story was very obviously not the bare minimum. The man took the time to slowly world build and add lore of various types and regions within his own story, not to mention with Bozja he literally basically gave us a mini eorzea encyclopedia for free. He basically did a better job than most of the main story writers have done. As for the retconning, this is something constantly done in msq. They’ve already done it multiple times in ShB alone yet people seem to ignore that because the story is just “so amazing.” Ivalice isn’t any different if anything the retcon is less of a thing since there were many unknowns to begin with.

[Derio]

I feel like Ivalice was just half A$$ed.

The story of Ivalice should have been a full on expansion with the 24 man raids being a part of it. It would have been way better with voice acting. The problem is the content was trying to tell an engaging story with 0 voice acting and multiple cutscenes.

I did enjoy the content just because of nostalgia. But from a new player perspective who hasnt played FF12 I can see how the entire storyline could seem as a waste and very boring.

If they do decide to have us go save Dalmasca, please SE put it in an expansion and not behind relic. The Ivalice and Bozja storylines have suffered greatly because they are side content and not mainstream.

[ReynTime]

Maybe Matsuno should make the next FF MMORPG lol

Despite my opinions about his way of explaining things I'd be down.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Maybe Matsuno should make the next FF MMORPG lol

Despite my opinions about his way of explaining things I'd be down.

Honestly i’d love this option. He’d be less likely to give in to pandering to the community as well, He likes to write his own stories and doesn’t like to let anyone influence the outcome unlike what we’ve seen with msq over and over. I personally love his story themes and ideals so i’d be willing to give it a fair chance if it ever happened in the future for sure.

[Iscah]

Except it's not going to work on most people. People who have no nostalgia for the old games aren't going to feel a need to go buy dated games. Also, many people just don't like the gameplay in older FF games, they don't like turn based combat, and they aren't interested in dated graphics.

It convinced me to go play FF3 to see how much of the Crystal Tower stuff was worked in and what was original to FFXIV.

On the other hand I have no desire to play the Ivalice games due to this. They don't feel integrated like CT, which wove into concepts introduced earlier in the story like the Allagan Empire. Ivalice feels like it comes in, sets up every bit of its history and geography brand new from scratch and wants you to absorb all of it before you can appreciate what's going on.

[Liam_Harper]

I very much enjoyed the Ivalice storyline and raids, so it's surprising to see how unpopular they were. Especially things like "half assed" when there's definitely more work put into it than Eureka or some of the older raids. It feels like it's one of those things that's trendy to hate because it's "not true to the original", but I could be wrong. Either way I enjoyed it.

I'm personally not a fan of unfinished storylines though. Bozja was clearly set up to continue with further story development. We had Hildebrand scrapped too when that was clearly set up to have a ShB arc and the United Beast tribe quest was scrapped. It's not a good sign. Story is meant to be the selling point of the game.

[Theodric]

It's a matter of personal taste, really.

The Crystal Tower raids did nothing for me since I always found G'raha Tia to be a terrible character. I would have strongly preferred to work alongside Doga and Unei to a greater degree instead of seeing them unceremoniously cast aside to make way for this:



Matsuno's contributions to the story, however, greatly fleshed out Garlemald and allowed us to see much more of its better side than the MSQ's showed us - so I'm struggling to see where the claim of the Ivalice content having no connection to the main story elements is coming from. There's also a fair few links to other important lore elements, such as how Ultima can be tied to Hydaelyn, Mikoto giving us another look at what the Echo is capable of and much more.