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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    I'm going to use this to make another of my unpopular opinions. I wish FFXIV would stop dragging things in from other FF games. It makes me, and I assume at least some others who this as the only FF game they have played feel a little "left out". Even if content is good, you still get that feeling because "oh this is a reference to FF ## and means blah blah blah". Well I could never get into old FF games and didn't play FF ##.

    It's also annoying when you hear someone spout some lore point and ask where that's from and you get "oh it was that way in FF YY". Take Male Viera as an example, so many people spouting all this lore about them "oh it was this way in [whatever previous game they were in], so it's going to be that way in FFXIV"

    It really does start pissing me off to hear that about half the content it seems like.

    Make more original stuff, and less transplanted stuff so we all experience together without the people who have played every FF since the beginning of time knowing half the story.

    I mean, SE has at least some awareness of it when they actually made a big deal about the new raids being FFXIV original. I mean think about that, they had to make an issue of that, in every other MMO that would be a given.

    And this as an issue is going to grow as more non long time FF players are coming to the game.

    Now I'm not against easter eggs and the like, but this has gone WAY beyond that.
    It's a little ironic considering you are playing FF "14". A game series that has always been about constant themes. Crystals, Summons, moogles, chocobos, Cid, airships, warrior of light..

    I understand the frustration, but knowing or not, it's part of what makes FF, FF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    It's a little ironic considering you are playing FF "14". A game series that has always been about constant themes. Crystals, Summons, moogles, chocobos, Cid, airships, warrior of light..

    I understand the frustration, but knowing or not, it's part of what makes FF, FF.
    None of those are the same as copying story elements whole sale.

    Also, something FF fans are always quick to say is FF games are unrelated unless they are numbered XX-Y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    It's a little ironic considering you are playing FF "14". A game series that has always been about constant themes. Crystals, Summons, moogles, chocobos, Cid, airships, warrior of light.
    A game series that has also told a new story with each main game.

    You haven't needed to know what happened in any previous main FF games to follow the plot of a new one, that should still be the case in XIV too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi View Post
    Also, what a dark timeline to live in where Matsuno moves on from XIV without any fanfare and farewell, while Yoko Taro who gave us some of the worst writing in XIV in years is invited on for the next Live Letter.
    Despite my previous comments I do broadly agree with this.

    As I said, I think Bozja was pretty decent, and while I wasn't personally a fan of the Ivalice raids I still wouldn't go so far as to say they were terrible or anything, at least the fans of XII and its spin-offs seem to really like the XIV stuff so it has that going for it.

    The writing for the Nier raid was disappointing though, and I really like Automata. Even fans further down the rabbit-hole of the whole Nier series didn't really seem that enamored with the raids beyond enjoying getting the references.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 06-30-2021 at 12:06 AM.