For Absent Friends and the trolling around the Fate Chain spawn.

[JanVanding]

Yes, this has now become a thing and it's indicative of a problem with how the Bozjan Fate Chain system is currently, not working very well, at all.

The current best way to get the Fate to spawn is get in a fresh instance and gun it straight to the spawn and begin killing Scorpions.

Now this is a known thing....certain less than savory individuals that know people are currently trying to hunt out fresh instances knowing full well that once FaF gets trapped behind another Fate it will go right to the back of the fate chain (which will take upwards of 2 hours to clear it, just for a shot at the S&F and duel for the drop) they go straight in with flarestar, they gun to Zone 3 and immediately kill all the MK1 Magitek mobs, that die fast and will force Mechanical Man to jump to the front of the queue.

I called out someone for doing this after spending a good 30 minutes with others exclusively killing Scorpions in a fresh instance, their reply

"Cry me a river"

They knew full well they were locking out the spawn for 2 hours, this wasn't some innocent "oh I'm new here" mistake, this was a very purposeful move to waste the time of other players that are frankly already sick of how dumb this whole fate system currently is in regards to the FaF fate chain.

But here's the thing, I may have voiced my distaste at that player, there are more doing the same, purposely trolling "because they can"

I don't blame them, I blame you SE, I blame you for not addressing the system when it was clear it was going to be a problem and it was going to be open to such abuse.

Simple answer, Decouple FaF/S&F from the other fates, I don't care if you give it a full instance cool down, let it spawn in the beginning, let it spawn in the end so people know if it's worth hanging around or moving instance and remove the ability for those that are blocking others from doing it because they think it's "Funny" to waste peoples' time.

[MPK]

And people say this game is less toxic than WoW.
kek

I mean I don't blame them. Bozja is just bad content.

[JanVanding]

And people say this game is less toxic than WoW.
kek

I mean I don't blame them. Bozja is just bad content.

100% and I completely agree, I don't blame them for abusing an issue that is present and ab-usable. Is it awful? Sure, but it's going to happen because SE left that door open and it's on them for leaving that door open.

[hobostew]

I don't think they're necessarily trying to troll you but rather they're trying to farm clusters. There really isn't much you can do about it since they're well within their right to farm clusters.

I feel a best case solution would be to have some priority system so it doesn't get pushed back by other CE chains so much but that's assuming there isn't one already.

[JanVanding]

I don't think they're necessarily trying to troll you but rather they're trying to farm clusters. There really isn't much you can do about it since they're well within their right to farm clusters.

I feel a best case solution would be to have some priority system so it doesn't get pushed back by other CE chains so much but that's assuming there isn't one already.

No they were definitely trolling and not just doing the Cluster farm. They pulled ONLY the MK1 magiteks, not the Scorpions or MK3s which would all be pulled in a cluster farm (which would lead to FaF coming up first anyway because more scorpions would naturally be killed than MK1s) it was an intentional action and the response when asked why they did that was indicative of someone acting up "Because they can".

I could absolutely understand if it was an innocent mistake, if they'd killed more MK1s because of how they were pulling, etc. The fact they were only pulling Mk1s and made that snarky comment when questioned, yeah that wasn't just someone cluster farming unfortunatley.

Some of us have been at this for nearly 2 weeks now and are pretty low on patience as is, so for other players to start doing stuff like this? SE should really look at decoupling this like they did CLL asap.

[Conundrum]

No one is required to follow made up community rules or wants.

[JanVanding]

No one is required to follow made up community rules or wants.

Why the blame of solely on SE for leaving the door open.

"You don't pay my sub I wanna be a jerk" gonna be a jerk, while ever there are opportunities present to them to do it, it's on SE to notice things that can and will be abused and shut the doors properly.

[Conundrum]

Why the blame of solely on SE for leaving the door open.

"You don't play my sub I wanna be a jerk" gonna be a jerk, while ever there are opportunities present to them to do it, it's on SE to notice things that can and will be abused and shut the doors properly.

It's one of the reasons I actually want Asmon and Co to come here. This community needs to have its comfort zone shaken up a little and many of them need to be reminded they don't dictate game policy in any way.

[JanVanding]

It's one of the reasons I actually want Asmon and Co to come here. This community needs to have its comfort zone shaken up a little and many of them need to be reminded they don't dictate game policy in any way.

People can say what they like about that "other" game, yet the company were always pretty damn good at cracking down on any bad system that could be openly exploited in a detrimental fashion, I remember the AFK bot leechers in BGs, the Ninja looters, the trainers and all other host of bad stuff that went on in that game, nobody once held the players that did it responsible it was always

"Redacted Company, why is this a thing? Get it fixed" and they'd have to respond.

SE get far too much leniency from the community sometimes and this is one of those situations where it should be turned on SE for not fixing a Fate chain problem that has been around since the days of ARR because they simply don't want to put resources into fixing it.

[lezard21]

People can say what they like about that "other" game, yet the company were always pretty damn good at cracking down on any bad system that could be openly exploited in a detrimental fashion, I remember the AFK bot leechers in BGs, the Ninja looters, the trainers and all other host of bad stuff that went on in that game, nobody once held the players that did it responsible it was always

"Redacted Company, why is this a thing? Get it fixed" and they'd have to respond.

SE get far too much leniency from the community sometimes and this is one of those situations where it should be turned on SE for not fixing a Fate chain problem that has been around since the days of ARR because they simply don't want to put resources into fixing it.

^^^^ This so much. The expansion is over and STILL Castrum, DR and Dalriada all can be leeched either by not using essences or by straight out AFKing and SE has done nothing to fix or even acknowledge this issue. And while I agree this is mostly a SE problem for rushing content they don't care about in order to get back to robot waifus and male bunny development while leaving all these very obvious problems in (a raid where you can't kick people is just lmao) the toxic casual SE apologist community is also at fault for not holding SE accountable and demanding their money's worth.