SE: Please consider changing the crafting menu

[Kes13a]

lol okay. I got 1st place multiple times during the Ishgard ranking seasons and was even the highest score among any class on a rather competitive server during one of the seasons. When you’re crafting that much, having to exit the crafting menu to stand up and take a syrup *is* an annoyance even if it’s only once every 15 minutes.

Also, I have 10 retainers and they are literally full of items. There just unfortunately isn’t enough space in your inventory in this game to go about doing what you suggest if you’re trying to do some of the achievements without using the market board to buy materials. Perhaps you’re just making specific items, but again, if you’re trying to make one of everything or complete every levequest (as there are achievements in the game for this sort of thing), even if you use TeamCraft to plan it out, it still requires crafting a ton of different materials across a ton of different classes, and inventory space becomes an issue. It wouldn’t be an issue if you’re just crafting a bunch of the same thing to sell on the market board as you could more easily plan out what you need as you do, but that really isn’t an feasible option in many cases.

congratulations, well done.

yes, it all makes perfect sense now. I can see why you would find it inconvenient. First place multiple times, wow, impressive knowing what I know of the Restoration things.

the 10 retainers, well, most crafters I know have that many of course, and likely, you wouldnt have 10 if you couldnt stuff them full of things

[Conundrum]

they should also remove shards/crystals/clusters as crafting mats, its a relic of 1.0 that is no longer needed in the game

And really makes no sense in 99% of crafts.

[Garten]

100% agree with Op. Cant stand all the knee down, close, knee up, change >_>

[hynaku]

They should just merge all the crafting jobs into one job and get rid of shards, crystals, and clusters to save room for other stuff. For the tools use for crafting just make a universal tools.

[Dustytome]

They should just merge all the crafting jobs into one job and get rid of shards, crystals, and clusters to save room for other stuff. For the tools use for crafting just make a universal tools.

I was thinking this the other day when I was explaining to someone that crafting is now the same class you just have to level multiple times to unlock different recipes. It would likely take a ton of work to compact the crafter classes though, the quests would probably get culled and a different system for unlocking recipes would need to be put in place to keep from over-simplifying.

[Arillyn]

I was thinking this the other day when I was explaining to someone that crafting is now the same class you just have to level multiple times to unlock different recipes. It would likely take a ton of work to compact the crafter classes though, the quests would probably get culled and a different system for unlocking recipes would need to be put in place to keep from over-simplifying.

Could do the same with the battle classes. I mean tanks all do the same thing - hold threat, healers all just keep the party alive and dps just downs things. We really just need 1 tank, 1 healer and 1 dps.

[Shurrikhan]

Could do the same with the battle classes. I mean tanks all do the same thing - hold threat, healers all just keep the party alive and dps just downs things. We really just need 1 tank, 1 healer and 1 dps.

Crafters have literally the same actions. Their differences are solely the tool skin with which they hit a shiny ball. They can be as well differentiated by auto-swapped tools and recipe sets as by separate classes.

DoW/M do not, and cannot. Let's not strawman or otherwise conflate this...

[Arillyn]

Crafters have literally the same actions. Their differences are solely the tool skin with which they hit a shiny ball. They can be as well differentiated by auto-swapped tools and recipe sets as by separate classes.

DoW/M do not, and cannot. Let's not strawman or otherwise conflate this...

They didn't use to have the same actions. There were cross-class skills that were super useful, and yes necessary, if you wanted to reliably HQ. That was the case with DOW/DOM as well. DOW/DOM had that replaced with Role Actions. SE then changed DOH so you didn't have to level different crafts for the cross-class if you didn't want to. Serious crafters did, but if you only wanted to level one craft you were at a serious disadvantage.

I don't want the crafting dumbed down anymore than it already has been. I don't want crafting to be like in other games. Heck, in 1.0 you could start your character as a DOH/DOL and never really had to touch a battle class. I thought that was a pretty cool idea. I know why it was changed for 2.0 and don't think that was a bad decision. But I am really tired of the dumbing down of things and while the DOW & DOM classes have different actions they don't have to. Edit - they don't have to if taken to the nth degree I mean. There are three roles - Tank, Healer, DPS. Of course I don't want them to all have the same actions and SE would never do it - but I'm just tired of people trying to dumb things down so much.

Did I take the suggestion to the nth degree? Yes I did and I did so because I'm tired of people who don't really like crafting & gathering trying to dumb it down even more for those of use who genuinely have enjoyed crafting and gathering during the entire game. If you (general you) don't enjoy that part of the game then don't do it, but stop trying to have SE essentially get rid of it.

[van_arn]

They should just merge all the crafting jobs into one job and get rid of shards, crystals, and clusters to save room for other stuff. For the tools use for crafting just make a universal tools.

That's a hot take, but yeah. I'm just thinking of how much more simple my bars would be since I don't need to ctrlc/ctrlv them thirty times.

[DoH]

That's a hot take, but yeah. I'm just thinking of how much more simple my bars would be since I don't need to ctrlc/ctrlv them thirty times.

Just have a macro such as:

/macrolock
/hotbar copy CRP 1 current 1
/hotbar copy CRP 2 current 2
/hotbar copy CRP 3 current 3
/hotbar copy CRP 4 current 4
/hotbar copy CRP 5 current 5
/hotbar copy CRP 6 current 6
/hotbar copy CRP 7 current 7
/hotbar copy CRP 8 current 8
/hotbar copy CRP 9 current 9
/hotbar copy CRP 10 current 10

And set up your CRP (or whatever class it is) the way you want it and then change to the other crafting classes and execute the macro; it still takes 7 times and is annoying but it should at least save you some time if you ever make any changes.