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  1. 01-04-2022 07:25 PM
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    They only read data. They don't read their own forums.

    Kind of a red flag to say they didn't see it on the forums when both JP and NA sides of the forums have a 150+ Dark Knight topic each.

    It's a known fact they balance jobs around raids. So raid data is all that matters.
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    Danelo's Avatar
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    Character
    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    I think the only way things really change is if dps and healers complain about DRK. I’m pretty sure the only threads they bother with are the dps.
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Looks like not playing the job is the only way to get their attention.

    Or, if you need a dose of hopium: there is no change because they are busy working on the 6.3 rework
    (5)

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    Character
    Equinox Axxion
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    sadly that doesn't really surprise me with patch notes. Drk will excel better at single fight encounters but will lack the mob sustain part
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 82
    Please Yoshi, just a crumb of fixes

    (1)

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    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I just hate how they are going to use the "there is a plenty amount of DRK progresing in savage right now" to don't do anything on it, like if having top dps justifies to carry the worst gameplay design it has been imposed since SHB and ignore the fact that many of this raiders just care about numbers adventage and no gameplay design.

    The only thing that actually susprise me about all of this is no tank ajustments at all, PLD need a dps boost at least and get literally nothing is like mmmm ok looks like tanks don't deserve even minimun balance like that.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-04-2022 at 11:50 PM.

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    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    I just hate how they are going to use the "there is a plenty amount of DRK progresing in savage right now" to don't do anything on it, like if having top dps justifies to carry the worst gameplay design it has been imposed since SHB and ignore the fact that many of this raiders just care about numbers adventage and no gameplay design.

    The only thing that actually susprise me about all of this is no tank ajustments at all, PLD need a dps boost at least and get literally nothing is like mmmm ok looks like tanks don't deserve even minimun balance like that.
    If anything thats what bugged me the most, PLD has the easiest fixes of all the tank problems yet they didn't get anything.

    For a low effort potency buff patch, a class that needed it the most got passed over.
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    Ricky' Spanish
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Yoshi P and his dev team won't see this because they are just a group of dps mains. While I do like RDM, I wish DRK and the other tanks got that level of love. Can't prog anything group content wise without healers and tanks. Both roles should be enjoyable and not feel like a punishment.
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    K'rheya Tia
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    Can't prog anything group content wise without healers and tanks.
    Pretty sure this is exactly why we never get any proper attention - they look at content participation rates when deciding changes and even if tanks and healers are collectively in a shite state, they will always see 2 of each in every party - "clearly everything is fine, so many people playing tanks and healers in raids after all!". On top of that, since the party building mechanics essentially force you to take half of the existing tank/healer jobs (2/4), even if one is particularly bad it won't really see that much of a difference in participation, compared to when this happens with a DPS job.

    When physical ranged was so bad at SHB launch that it wasn't worth the 1% main stat buff, people could just ditch them entirely. When NIN's output was laughable, people just played another dps and the job's clear numbers dropped. With support roles there isn't much to switch too and 4 people always have to "suffer" them for the rest of the raid, regardless of how bad they feel to play.
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