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  1. #1241
    Player
    shao32's Avatar
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    arcadis
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    Character
    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    adjustments before savage, soooo nothing for DRK bcs is fine number wise, stick with the awful gameplay design, no Delirium rework, no fix on the WAR rip-off gameplay loop, no Shadow skin, no living dead rework or fix the kit around it to handle it better, no blood weapon stack system and of course lets not dare to expect cohesion on the job kit at all, that's a crime against they vision of the game.

    Like seriously, they didn't even think before they made the C&S/AD change that the problem of the overloaded oGCD burst window is bcs they just did leave the entire downtime wich represent most of the time the player is dealing with the job is complety empty of oGCD bcs they did not distribute them properly?! bcs all the MP is loaded there too?! bcs they just wasted Shadowbringer to add another unnecesary oGCD wich offer nothing but more fluff to the gameplay when the DRK comunity asked for god lord know how much time for more Weaponskills to break the awful GCD monotomy soul eater and bloodspiller is focing down our throats?!

    Idk where they are getting the feedback from DRK but is not anything from the Official forum, users feedback for DRK aren't meaning anything for them, it didn't mean before so int's going to mean anything now saddly, sorry im just so salty and im being rude but god lord seems Yoshi-p and that dev feel totally disconected from us on purpose.
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  2. #1242
    Player
    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Nov 2019
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    Limsa-Lominsa
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    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Now that I think about it, Shadowbringer would align pretty well as a continuation of Soul Eater's landing pose for a 4th weaponskill when under Darkside
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  3. #1243
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Now that I think about it, Shadowbringer would align pretty well as a continuation of Soul Eater's landing pose for a 4th weaponskill when under Darkside
    In return for dropping 15 or 30s off Darkside. Darkside has so much potential for being gauge management alongside Blood.
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  4. #1244
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Character
    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Until Darkside receives changes DRK is a Heavy Thrust Tank. Ultimately that's all current Darkside turns out to be.
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  5. #1245
    Player
    Annihilism's Avatar
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    Character
    Angelus Reflex
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Did DARK murder a dev's family or something? At this point this seems like intentional trolling of DRK mains. If I hadn't switched my main tank to GNB back in SHB I'd be extremely disappointed. None of it's issues have been addressed, subpar sustain, subpar ivuln and subpar DPS compared to the other tanks.

    After I get it to 90, in the closet it goes, it is what it is.
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  6. #1246
    Player
    Marxam's Avatar
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    Character
    Blackiron Tarkus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurATDayne View Post
    They said one thing and did another, in DRK's case it seemed like they Intentionally Trolled the player base after spending that time thinking up the method.
    Idk about that. The change to flood/edge of shadow from 2 secs to 1 sec means you get to double weave again. I think that was the main complaint in SB, that DRK didn't have enough double weaving ogcds in their rotation. Seriously though, this will most likely happen. Just instead of using Dark Arts you are using Edge/Flood and you will most likely pair them with ShB when its up.

    This is one of the reasons why I don't like GNB. Too many forced ogcd spams and its tricky to used your defensive cds in-between them to react to any given situation. DRK is getting dangerously close to that and I'm not too impressed about it.
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  7. #1247
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    ArthurATDayne's Avatar
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    Arthur-at Dayne
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Idk about that. The change to flood/edge of shadow from 2 secs to 1 sec means you get to double weave again. I think that was the main complaint in SB, that DRK didn't have enough double weaving ogcds in their rotation. Seriously though, this will most likely happen. Just instead of using Dark Arts you are using Edge/Flood and you will most likely pair them with ShB when its up.

    This is one of the reasons why I don't like GNB. Too many forced ogcd spams and its tricky to used your defensive cds in-between them to react to any given situation. DRK is getting dangerously close to that and I'm not too impressed about it.
    I'm not too worried about the Edge/Flood change from 2s to 1s because DRK only has so much Mana available to spam those 3000 Mana oGCDs before going empty. At present it seems 10000 Mana is still the max capacity for DRK and Mana sustain isn't enough to go too nuts.

    I also dislike GNB but for these specific reasons: The oGCD skills are fine by themselves but that Gnashing Fang Combo + Continuation is a lot of goddamn button work to do enough DPS not to fall behind vs other tanks. The damage is so spread out over too many skills and feels like too much work for little reward to me.

    In fact, one of the reasons I stopped playing GNB on this Character is because I ran out of spots on my 2 Hotbars where I was comfortable enough keybinding to my Mechanical Keyboard and 12+ Button MMO mouse. The new changes to Gnashing Fang Combo to be 1 Button frees up some spots at least so I may go back to GNB without feeling like I'm missing split second keybind reaction.

    Dark Knight, despite have a lot of oGCD, doesn't force me into a Committed Do or Lose Like A Chump specific DPS single target or multi target combo like say GNB's Gnashing Fang + Continuation Combo or PLD's Requiescat Holy Spirit/Circle + Confiteor Combo so I find DRK feels more free and relaxing to play.

    Just 1-2-3 Soul Eater/ 5-6 AOE Mana & Blood Sustain and oGCD as needed. Delirium 3 stacks on generous duration goes further in making this more laidback for me.
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  8. #1248
    Player
    RatCopter's Avatar
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    Character
    Artaius Windcrest
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Just as an aside, is anyone else going to be removing Abyssal Drain from their hotbars when servers go live too?
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  9. #1249
    Player
    ArthurATDayne's Avatar
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    Character
    Arthur-at Dayne
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RatCopter View Post
    Just as an aside, is anyone else going to be removing Abyssal Drain from their hotbars when servers go live too?
    That Damn Shared CD Timer...

    When I eventually log in tonight (hopefully) I might keep Abyssal Drain on Hotbar1 Immediate Keyboard Access because that Heal Effect 200 Potency per Target is pretty important for Mob Packs and Carve & Split will be moved to Hotbar2 which is bound to MMO Mouse Side Buttons to minimize chance of accidently hitting 1 when I needed the other. Because only Abyssal Drain has both the Heal Effect & Restores Mana and Crave & Split only Restores Mana.
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  10. #1250
    Player
    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I really liked DRK back in heavensward when I started in 3.2.

    But I can't help but always feel bad about when I play DRK. It's basically the tank I'm second best at but the neglect of this job is just silly. Guess I'll be a WAR main as far as tanks go, at least I can heal myself.
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