Dark Knight Megathread

[Shin96]

I suppose you also have been recording me while playing? Believe me or not that's your problem; not mine.

If you actually couple your CD's and have a capable healer, it'll be just fine. Unlike many on these forums, I don't mind wiping here and there it's part of how games are.

You guys are literally making this job out to be unplayable which it isn't.

Yeah and I also dislike this self-sustain crap. In 5.0 we were blue DPS and now we're a mixture of green, blue, and red. I'd rather go back to being a blue DPS.

[Shurrikhan]

Yeah and I also dislike this self-sustain crap. In 5.0 we were blue DPS and now we're a mixture of green, blue, and red. I'd rather go back to being a blue DPS.

I wouldn't mind something the likes of "At the end of 8 seconds, heal for 50% of all damage you mitigated" or "Heal for 40% of the damage you took in the last 3 seconds" (if requiring a bankable resource and/or saving a CD), but all these HoTs (now on Equilibrium, Intervention, Shelltron, etc.) and auto-timed self-saves like Corundum's Excog effect really just feel like the blandest form of capacity over time, more so than player agency.

Much like on a healer, I don't mind (having) healing (capacity), but... could it please at least feel fun and skillful?

[Zordrage]

Yeah and I also dislike this self-sustain crap. In 5.0 we were blue DPS and now we're a mixture of green, blue, and red. I'd rather go back to being a blue DPS.

I Don't and i rather Not.

Btw as a DRK your still a Blue "DPS" sadly thats the issue.

[ThorneDynasty]

I suppose you also have been recording me while playing? Believe me or not that's your problem; not mine.

If you actually couple your CD's and have a capable healer, it'll be just fine. Unlike many on these forums, I don't mind wiping here and there it's part of how games are.

You guys are literally making this job out to be unplayable which it isn't.

Yeah and I also dislike this self-sustain crap. In 5.0 we were blue DPS and now we're a mixture of green, blue, and red. I'd rather go back to being a blue DPS.

The thing that's glaring in every argument defending the state of DRK though is the ever present caveats. When you use all your cooldowns properly, when the DPS is decent, when the healer knows what they are doing, etc. All the other tanks are bringing a ton of adaptability not only to their own survival but the entire party. DRK being perfectly viable when things go right isn't as strong of an argument as you think, that's just less than the bare minimum for the role.

Add "but I don't mind wipes" and "no it's the other tanks that are designed wrong" to the list I guess.

[RyuDragnier]

If you actually couple your CD's and have a capable healer, it'll be just fine. Unlike many on these forums, I don't mind wiping here and there it's part of how games are.

You guys are literally making this job out to be unplayable which it isn't.

Aka get lucky in DF. And let me tell you, most of the healers I've been getting while tanking have been horrible. I leveled GNB up to 90 and encountered more than enough bad healers to where if it wasn't for Aurora and HoC, there'd have been no way I'd have cleared some of those bosses with those healers.

It's easy to say nonsense like you're saying when you don't realize that the only reason why DRK wouldn't be able to survive those circumstances is simply because it has 0 ways to self heal properly and has a big 20% mitigation cooldown that only works against magical attacks (meaning it's useless against physicals). WAR has Bloodwhetting, Equalibrium, Thrill of Battle, etc. PLD has Clemency, Holy Shelltron, and Holy Spirit. GNB has 2 charges of Aurora, and Heart of Corundum. DRK's Abyssal Drain is a useless 200 potency heal (healing the same as a Brutal Shell but without the barrier) every 60s that shares a cooldown with Carve and Spit, while Souleater is your combo ender with a 300 potency heal that cannot be used when you're using Blood Gauge moves. Right there is the problem, the problem ANY tank can see with DRK. It doesn't bloody matter if it "gets the job done", when you're struggling harder than any other tank to get it done!