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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Im seeing a few request to remove MP cost from TBN lately and i have to say that's not easy to do, first of all bcs TBN is tied to the Dark arts proc wich have a gauge tied to it (useless gauge all being said) so thats means rework the whole proc mechanic or delete it but at the same time they can't bcs thet need to keep Dark arts name somehow on the jobs bcs is a signature skill on the job identity across the various FF games at the same time they will delete the literally only mechanic the job has and rework it means they have to actually put some brain cells on design the job even for that thing and i doubt they are going to get in to that at all, in other word it's a corner im pretty sure they aren't willing to work on it.

    For self healing bring back Sole survivor, during his duration (10s) DRK get a heal of idk, 100p per GCD hit and heal the job with a cure of 700p when sole survivor fades off, 100p x5 + 700p when the effect fades off 1200p selfhealing every 60s aviable when you want, meh idk why i even think on it when i know it's never going to happen, boring evening don't mind me.
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    Arthur-at Dayne
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Im seeing a few request to remove MP cost from TBN lately and i have to say that's not easy to do, first of all bcs TBN is tied to the Dark arts proc wich have a gauge tied to it (useless gauge all being said) so thats means rework the whole proc mechanic or delete it but at the same time they can't bcs thet need to keep Dark arts name somehow on the jobs bcs is a signature skill on the job identity across the various FF games at the same time they will delete the literally only mechanic the job has and rework it means they have to actually put some brain cells on design the job even for that thing and i doubt they are going to get in to that at all, in other word it's a corner im pretty sure they aren't willing to work on it.

    For self healing bring back Sole survivor, during his duration (10s) DRK get a heal of idk, 100p per GCD hit and heal the job with a cure of 700p when sole survivor fades off, 100p x5 + 700p when the effect fades off 1200p selfhealing every 60s aviable when you want, meh idk why i even think on it when i know it's never going to happen, boring evening don't mind me.
    Something something from the Dark Knight Job Quest about Love making all the suffering and pain bearable and fueling the willingness to fight against the injustice of it all. Something something about Light born out of the Darkness.

    Or maybe it's the Copium Dark Knight players all having a puff of. We can hope and cope.
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    Last edited by ArthurATDayne; 11-16-2021 at 05:28 AM.

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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Im seeing a few request to remove MP cost from TBN lately and i have to say that's not easy to do, first of all bcs TBN is tied to the Dark arts proc wich have a gauge tied to it (useless gauge all being said) so thats means rework the whole proc mechanic or delete it but at the same time they can't bcs thet need to keep Dark arts name somehow on the jobs bcs is a signature skill on the job identity across the various FF games at the same time they will delete the literally only mechanic the job has and rework it means they have to actually put some brain cells on design the job even for that thing and i doubt they are going to get in to that at all, in other word it's a corner im pretty sure they aren't willing to work on it.

    For self healing bring back Sole survivor, during his duration (10s) DRK get a heal of idk, 100p per GCD hit and heal the job with a cure of 700p when sole survivor fades off, 100p x5 + 700p when the effect fades off 1200p selfhealing every 60s aviable when you want, meh idk why i even think on it when i know it's never going to happen, boring evening don't mind me.
    Make Dark Art an action that lights up the gauge to remind you that it's ok.
    You know like for Living Shadow that gets a full on gauge too. And boom, you can make TBN 25s CD with another type of effect, like giving 50 Blood. Or spreading its remaining shield to party members if it doesn't break I dunno
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Make Dark Art an action that lights up the gauge to remind you that it's ok.
    You know like for Living Shadow that gets a full on gauge too. And boom, you can make TBN 25s CD with another type of effect, like giving 50 Blood. Or spreading its remaining shield to party members if it doesn't break I dunno
    That would make the proc a clear dps gain wich is not a bad thing per se but considering how useless is the whole Darkside mechanic having that extra edge means very little outside of having more fluff for the shake of having more fluff saddly.

    leaving that apart TBN shouln't ever grant any resource if it's free bcs it would make it being used on ecast instead of when you need it bcs damage, in any case grant a small heal or a micro regen of 5s, something defensive not ofensive to avoid that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArthurATDayne View Post
    Something something from the Dark Knight Job Quest about Love making all the suffering and pain bearable and fueling the willingness to fight against the injustice of it all. Something something about Light born out of the Darkness.

    Or maybe it's the Copium Dark Knight players all having a puff of. We can hope and cope.
    Copium for sure, while im practicaly have absolutely no trust at all on Yoshi and his team on DRK im stupid enough to keep fighting for it bcs my inside refuse to give up.
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