Dark Knight Megathread

[OdinelStarrei]

Didn't they say that they were done with 6.0's job/balance changes and won't be doing more before release?
Where is your quote from?
I thought the delay was about server integrity and additional QA polish.

It's a joke. Don't read into it. There (most likely) will be no changes.

[WlyemR]

That version of Abyssal Drain still exists in the game. It's called Holy Circle now. Because holy magic specializes in lifesteal, naturally.

It is entirely possible that Holy Circle will heal you whether you hit an enemy or not.

[WlyemR]

I most hate that not only does slapping the cure potency onto Holy Circle and Holy Shock not fit Paladin in any way, but it also

1. devalues Clemency,
2. siphons budget towards a basically non-timeable heal,
3. is thematically and (mostly) functionally redundant (with Clemency and Holy Shelltron), and
4. by emphasizing small, mostly untimeable heals, deemphasizes sharply timed mitigation and recovery.

There's just... virtually nothing good about this design. It's just yet more uncreative slap-on-further-ease-of-tanking-at-expense-to-tanking-gameplay.

1. Clemency retains its utility regardless of other self healing sources specifically because of its trait that gives you healing in return.
2. You would be using your magical burst rotation regardless of whether or not it had a heal or not.
3. Since most PLD's agree that Clemency is always a DPS loss in any situation and you can only use Holy Shelltron every 25 seconds or so, the healing gained from the new trait is a fine addition to a strong kit.
4. The small amount of healing you gain from Holy Spirit, Holy Circle, and Holy Shelltron will never be enough to offset the damage of most encounters, only slow it down. You will always need sharp mitigation and recovery as the encounter demands.

[ArthurATDayne]

Didn't they say that they were done with 6.0's job/balance changes and won't be doing more before release?
Where is your quote from?
I thought the delay was about server integrity and additional QA polish.

Sorry bud it was a joke, one that I hoped would encapsulate the spirit of SquareEnix's current vision of Dark Knight, I'll have to remember to put a /s more often.

[ItMe]

Sorry bud it was a joke, one that I hoped would encapsulate the spirit of SquareEnix's current vision of Dark Knight, I'll have to remember to put a /s more often.

No worries.
Thanks for answering my question~

[Shin96]

It's a joke. Don't read into it. There (most likely) will be no changes.

There hasn't been for years admittedly. Band-aid fixes and other useless bullshit. DRK has lost every shred of identity while giving it away to other tanks. Reaper seems to be their only solution given the current situation.

[Warlyx]

Reaper is going to have a lot of stuff that classic Final Fantasy Dark Knight fans will want. Aesthetic, DPS, bitching armor due to sharing DRG gear, Scythe reminiscent of XI(also a XI Scythe Preorder bonus when you upgrade to CE), a true Darkside mode instead of a buff. I see a lot of Dark Knights dropping DRK for RPR easily. Also Bloodbath role action giving you true Lifesteal missing on Dark Knight on every GCD.

I played DRK in HW and SB but ultimately dropped DRK at 72 at the beginning of SHB and going into Bozja took it to 75 while experimenting with each Tank. End of the day PLD/WAR feel the best. GNB is fun when you DPS burst but otherwise is meh.

And for me Reaper looks very engaging to me with 2 gauges to manage that work with each other instead of against each other. And is more evil looking then DRK is.

I'm so hype for Reaper I've already farmed out 72-80 gear for easy leveling transitions and a full Cryptlurkers set to launch me right into Endwalker at 80.

I really want DRK to be better but after 6 years I haven't seen anything but nerf after nerf over the years. I pretty much dropped it in SHB but It'll be permanently shelved in Ednwalker onward. Pretty sad since DRK is what got me to try FF XIV at HW launch. That and GILGAMESH my fav FF character.

i said it before , but all the good and cool ideas went to RPR instead of DRK and thats why DRK is having tons of issues and identity crisis.

and outside of gameplay mechanics , look at all this cool looking skills/sfx

[Kalaam]

Reaper is just the DPS spec of DRK guys. It is an experiment for the future implementation of job specs past level 99 where each job will have 2 or even 3 specs ! Samura's Shogun tank spec! Paladin's Holy Blade dps spec! Warrior's Viking DPS spec ! Mostly DPS spec for everyone actually.

[Kreyd]

I'd find it extremely funny if we could convience all DRK players to only use Unmend>Plunge on Single Target, only Shadowbringer for aoe, delete TBN and Oblation enterely from our hotbars, and use Dark Mind instead for all dmg reduction needs, to screw with SE's data. Just imagine the devs scratching their heads for hours what exploit players may have found. xD

Anyways. I'll start counting how many of which tank I see in my duties, just to see how many players still even touch DRK. Feel free to join me.

[ArthurATDayne]

I'd find it extremely funny if we could convience all DRK players to only use Unmend>Plunge on Single Target, only Shadowbringer for aoe, delete TBN and Oblation enterely from our hotbars, and use Dark Mind instead for all dmg reduction needs, to screw with SE's data. Just imagine the devs scratching their heads for hours what exploit players may have found. xD

Anyways. I'll start counting how many of which tank I see in my duties, just to see how many players still even touch DRK. Feel free to join me.

I'm legit planning to do that in Roulettes on single targets remaining and bragging to everyone about Enhanced Unmend Spam => Plunge as new Meta Rotation.

Yes, Even if the Roulette Dungeon, Trial, Raid is under level 80. Woo woo!