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    Quote Originally Posted by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai View Post
    I can agree a lot with Lyth's above comment... Not quite my own preference, but I like how it reads, and while I will no longer play the current Dark Knight, I would for certain play that...

    My own selfish desire is for Dark Knight to be more like the Dark Warrior.. not WAR Clone, I mean a fantasy subclass archtype from a few decades ago,
    or at the least, I want FFXIV's Dark Knight to be a remaster improvement of the original 3.x version, that also more resembles the Dark Knight as it did appear in other FF games of the FF franchise.

    It would also interest me a lot to see the Dark Knight be the full sustain, little burst, "Speed" type of the Tanks, whether that be literal low-GCD speed,
    or better than that, the illusion of speed; through constant oGCD weaves and the always-active thrill of full sustain attacks, instead of being held back by "just wait for the burst" and "it is all in the burst".
    Contrary to how greatswords are depicted in most media, they would've been reasonably fast weapons (as were most tbh, can't really afford to be slow in a fight) since 1) they were heavy, but not unreasonably so 2) being a two-handed weapon meant more control and leverage. Hypothetically, if the other tanks (particularly WAR and GNB) didn't exist I could've seen DRK being a speedy glass cannon, able to sustain itself not through defence but life leech (steal it from WAR) and other skills of the sort
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Contrary to how greatswords are depicted in most media, they would've been reasonably fast weapons (as were most tbh, can't really afford to be slow in a fight) since 1) they were heavy, but not unreasonably so 2) being a two-handed weapon meant more control and leverage. Hypothetically, if the other tanks (particularly WAR and GNB) didn't exist I could've seen DRK being a speedy glass cannon, able to sustain itself not through defence but life leech (steal it from WAR) and other skills of the sort
    A spadone, montante, zweihander, etc., can be deceptively fast--especially when maintaining momentum--but that's a far cry from the "greatswords" we typically see wielded here by most FF iterations of DRK.

    Historically, FF's Dark Knight job has always centered iconically on slow but seriously meaty hits, more in keeping with temporary bursts of (magical) strength by which to use otherwise unfeasible weapons.
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    That would be the case, yeh... My own thoughts are along the lines of FFXIV's Dark Knight takes those Dark Magic enhancements, and puts the inhumane strength into fast and constant sustain, instead of slow and heavy burst.
    Wield that GreatSword like no normal mortal ever could, with a speed that defies reason and sense.

    What I meant by FFXIV's Dark Knight more to resemble other Dark Knight versions across the FF franchise, was a reference to the self-sacrificial Blood Magic. A lot of Dark Knight versions sacrifice their own HP for power, and it would interest me to see FFXIV Dark Knight use that kind of self-sacrificial Blood Magic, dare to spend the HP bar as a resource.

    Dark Knight could also have strong self-healing to sustain the risk and reward, or.. since the Dev Team insists that Healers heal more and DPS less,
    then Dark Knight could just have this high heal-demand that forces Healers to heal more often.
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    Last edited by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai; 08-29-2021 at 05:26 AM. Reason: my OCD, do not mind me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai View Post
    [...]A much better thing to do with a large amount of actions, too many for a player to use all of the actions, is to create in-class diversity. ...hieh.. my disappointment finds it mind-blowing stupid that FFXIV never did this, and has always done that delete actions nonsense, instead.[...] ------------ [...]"I want you to lower me down into my coffin... so that you can.. let. me. down.. one. last. time." - 6.0 Dark Knight[...]
    [...]"...you want to know.. why I chose to abandon the abyss for the void? ...It is simple. That power of darkness did fail me, so I chose to embrace a new power of the darkness...." - Anahlise, a Reaper[...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai View Post
    Dark Knight could also have strong self-healing to sustain the risk and reward, or.. since the Dev Team insists that Healers heal more and DPS less, then Dark Knight could just have this high heal-demand that forces Healers to heal more often.
    Parse-run communities: I sense a disturbance in the forcelogs.
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