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  1. #4601
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Anyone else feel the Delrium>Scarlet Delrium+Comeuppance+Torcleaver feels like a weaker version of the Confitieor combo?
    In that it lacks the 4 GCDs of ranged attacks per minute (that, frankly, wouldn't much fit DRK anyways), sure, but... in any other sense, tuning be tuning (and the Conf Combo itself had to be buffed, what, 3 times(?) to reach its end-of-EW relative potency)?

    It's a skin improvement over Bloodspiller_x3 with the unfortunate side effects that (though this is very much like original Req combo) it reduces freedom of choice between AoE and ST spenders and interferes with normal combo access during Delirium. If I were expecting more from it than that, I'm not sure Delirium would be the best trigger for that further, actually gameplay-changing effect. I'm not also sure it would best fit with said combo. (I.e., anything more than the reskin and potency update... would be a separate mechanic best discussed separately.)
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-18-2024 at 03:24 PM.

  2. #4602
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    It removes evem further freedom once you start the damn combo... unlike 3x Bloodspiller pre-96, you cannot Souleater after starting the Torcleaver combo or it just resets back to Scarlet Delirium.

    As if our sustain isn't complete whack already, we can't even time a Souleater heal anymore when we could before.
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  3. #4603
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    It removes evem further freedom once you start the damn combo... unlike 3x Bloodspiller pre-96, you cannot Souleater after starting the Torcleaver combo or it just resets back to Scarlet Delirium.

    As if our sustain isn't complete whack already, we can't even time a Souleater heal anymore when we could before.
    Aye, though the self-healing of Souleater was generally negligible, what we have now is a nerf to its flexibility.

    Reposting a part of an earlier minimum wishlist as regards that issue:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Have each new skill unlocked by Delirium progress its new combo and do not allow said combo to reset. E.g., after activating Delirium...
    • Impalement -> Syphon Strike -> Comeuppance -> Torcleaver,
    • Scarlet Delirium -> Impalement -> Souleater -> Torcleaver,
    • etc.,
    ...would all be permissible.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-17-2024 at 03:56 AM.

  4. #4604
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    That suggestion is juicy, I like it.
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  5. #4605
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    Enhanced unmend should turn your next shadowstride into plunge if they arent going to allow you to target allies with shadowstride.
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  6. #4606
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Enhanced unmend should turn your next shadowstride into plunge if they arent going to allow you to target allies with shadowstride.
    I'd honestly rather just have Unmend deal more potency, generate 600 MP, or much greater Plunge (after revert) CDR, than give another excuse not to simply revert Shadowstride to Plunge.
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  7. #4607
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Enhanced unmend should turn your next shadowstride into plunge if they arent going to allow you to target allies with shadowstride.
    I still wonder why they even left this trait.

    In Endwalker this trait was extremely situational.
    But now it's more of a joke how useless it is.
    It may be one, if not the worst trait in existence at the moment.

    I still wonder why didn't go unto the path of reworking enhanced unmend and keeping plunge.
    Like "enhanced unmend make so that your next unmend unlock a free proc of plunge, cooldown of 30 sec"
    This way they could have kept plunge and you could still dash when needed when the boss is away.

    (Not the best solution of course, but in my mind it's always better than always butchering class identity and replacing it weird abilities that have nothing to do with the class, thematically and visually, only for the sake of being "functional")
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  8. #4608
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixern View Post
    I still wonder why they even left this trait.

    In Endwalker this trait was extremely situational.
    But now it's more of a joke how useless it is.
    It may be one, if not the worst trait in existence at the moment.
    I think the only less useful trait is freecure feature to be honest. At least Enhanced Unmend has a sort of synergy in using it means you want to gap close again, shame it just matters in like 1 of ever 100 fights.
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    I think the only less useful trait is freecure feature to be honest.
    Almost forgot about this "thing".
    Sorry if i go offrails from the topic a bit, but speaking about it i also hope they fix (the many) stuff about healers one day too.

    (Holy hell, how is this abomination of a trait still standing)
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  10. #4610
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    I think the only less useful trait is freecure feature to be honest. At least Enhanced Unmend has a sort of synergy in using it means you want to gap close again, shame it just matters in like 1 of ever 100 fights.
    Freecure is honestly more useful. At least it has a rare use case for having died right after popping Lucid Dreaming. 5s CDR on a damage-less ability that is already available far more often than it's needed/useful has none.

    If it was an entire charge of Shadowstride granted, then it'd work in further fool-proofing a braindead movement skill, which would be worse for the job but at least impactful. Short of reliably making a charge available, though, it's not going to matter even in 1 in 100 typical fights, only at most 1 in 100 runs of specific encounters.
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