Dark Knight Megathread

[RyuDragnier]

I don't see the problem with Oblation. It seems like a pretty good tool for double tank busters. It's basically DRK's Aurora, it's fine.

It's not DRK's Aurora. You can't cast it on yourself in downtime and get health back. You can't combine it with your tank invuln and help get health back. You can't throw it on the main tank and help them get health back. You just get a lousy 10% mitigation which is peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Tell me where 10% mitigation IN A MULTIPLICATIVE SYSTEM is going to help? If it was additive, it'd be powerful, yes. But it's not, it's multiplicative.

[AlucaDragonheart]

I don't see the problem with Oblation. It seems like a pretty good tool for double tank busters. It's basically DRK's Aurora, it's fine.

It's nowhere near the same as Aurora lol

[Marxam]

I don't see the problem with Oblation. It seems like a pretty good tool for double tank busters. It's basically DRK's Aurora, it's fine.

It will all come down to raid design. If bosses are handing out single target busters to other players besides the tanks like candy at Halloween then it is useful but so it using Reprisal that affects raid-wides. DRK is in the same situation as SCH. It is clearly strong and can handle anything the other tanks can, it just lack that "oomphf" factor and TBN is still a hard carry for its tool kit. Also, Oblation is exactly like a single target Reprisal not a heal i.e. Aurora. Both are on a 60 sec cd and reduce dmg by 10% and last 10 secs. It's likely intended to be paired with TBN every time for its full effect, in most scenarios, if not all but TBN is almost always used in those situations if both reprisals aren't up. Oblation just seems like a niche tech option rather than something that rewards you for using it with proper timing unlike the other 3 tanks.

If you compare that to GNB's which gives you 15% for the first 4 secs, a shield (if you have brutal shell) and a mini excog all in one button for no resource you can see why by comparison it looks kinda meh. You also need to consider that the healers all got utility to help the tanks. However I expect to see Unmend metas get the memes.

[Garnix]

Well yeah but the issue is not Oblation IMO. The issue is that TBN did not get a new trait to align it with what the other tanks got.

[RyuDragnier]

Well yeah but the issue is not Oblation IMO. The issue is that TBN did not get a new trait to align it with what the other tanks got.

Actually, it is, or rather the level we get it at. If you told me this was an ability at low levels to help with the lack of mitigation pre-70, I'd be all for it. But it's not, it's at a location where we already have all our mitigation, there's no point in existing at level 82 when it would have been useful say at level 52.

[Jirah]

I don't know if anyone noticed but DRK plays a lot like MCH. Both have:

-one combo rotation
-ogcd spam as filler combos
-summons an NPC to deal damage alongside you

At this point they should consider making DRK more like MCH and utilize esteem more often. Maybe revert Delirium back to 4.0 version with it increasing timers i.e. Blood weapon and Living Shadow in the future. Blood Weapon also needs to either, get back the 4.0 haste buff or stack system of 6.0 otherwise you will need to reach sks cap to hit 5 gcds comfortably, similar to WAR in IR windows currently. I can only imagine its worse for ppl with bad ping.

I’ve noticed and is why DRK is the worst tank to play IMO, MCH loop personally isn’t fun so having a tank be very similar to it is both hilarious for the DPS and questionable since MCH is so very overrated but you can search 2-8 different methods to rework DRK. Why is one panned and the other celebrated? Making DRK more like MCH may actually be a decent idea but DRK needs its own unique set of skills. No job in the game should ever run to closely with the other especially between roles.

[MagiusNecros]

It's weaker then Rampart. It's dogshit. I'd take 2 charges of Shadowskin over it.

[Axxion]

know something funny reaper gets a shield but it also has a regen on it. Oblation does not

Drk still need someone way to gain more ways to heal them selfs

[Jakulo]

Lv. 82 Oblation - 15% damage reduction for 10s, 30s recharge 2 charges. Targetable and heal for 5% of dark knight’s max hp when hit.
Lv. 86 Salt and Darkness - 350 potency aoe inside salted earth, grants 20 blood. Only usable under darkside.
Lv. 90 Shadowbringer - 500 potency 25s recharge line aoe 2 charges, reduces darkside by 30s. Only usable under darkside. Does not drain the darkside under dark arts.

Traits

Lv. 1 Tank Mastery
Lv. 62 Blackblood - Allows the accumulation of blackblood when executing souleater and stalwart soul.
Lv. 66 Enhanced Blackblood - Allows the accumulation of blackblood during blood weapon.
Lv. 72 Darkside Mastery
Lv. 76 Scourge Mastery - Upgrades scourge to power slash.
Lv. 78 Enhanced Plunge
Lv. 82 Enhanced Unmend
Lv. 82 Shadowskin Mastery - Upgrades shadowskin to oblation.
Lv. 84 Melee Mastery
Lv. 88 Dark Arts Mastery - Reduces the recast time of Carve and Spit by 10s each time dark arts is consumed and grants 10 blackblood.
Lv. 90 One Brings Shadow - Upgrades dark passenger to shadowbringer and esteem will cast shadowbringer instead of flood of shadows.