Dark Knight Megathread

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Well the embargo lifted and damn these sure are changes, its about as bare minimum as you could expect.

Biggest loss is actually the loss of 1200 MP from the merged BW/Delirium, they did not bother to offset the mp generation so have fun with that I guess. I'm sure TBN being less available wont have any lasting balance impacts on 70-90 content.
But hey we got an Excog heal

Ehh, like it is annoying it's not really that much lost MP when you really think about it. It's 3000 MP lost every 2.5 mins, or 1200 MP/min. The bulk of our MP was coming from Siphon strike which hasn't changed.
Only thing that will really change in 70-90 content is that you may have to hold a single edge where you previously didn't. Even then, there's not many fights/phases in the game anyway where you're TBNing that much in a short period of time that 1200 MP per minute is going to make or break TBN usage. Like double dragons, TOP p3/6 are really the biggest places in my own recollection where you're going to want to be more vigilant on MP consumption than you were before.

Not just an excog heal though, the rampart +15% healing isn't anything to scoff at either. Sure the other tanks get it too, but for like a job like WAR/PLD they were already self-healing more than the enemies could damage them so unless DT dungeon damage massive shoots up, it was already redundant for them anyway and thus has a more prominent effect on DRK's survival in dungeons than theirs.

[Malthir]

Ehh, like it is annoying it's not really that much lost MP when you really think about it. It's 3000 MP lost every 2.5 mins, or 1200 MP/min. The bulk of our MP was coming from Siphon strike which hasn't changed.
Only thing that will really change in 70-90 content is that you may have to hold a single edge where you previously didn't. Even then, there's not many fights/phases in the game anyway where you're TBNing that much in a short period of time that 1200 MP per minute is going to make or break TBN usage. Like double dragons, TOP p3/6 are really the biggest places in my own recollection where you're going to want to be more vigilant on MP consumption than you were before.

Not just an excog heal though, the rampart +15% healing isn't anything to scoff at either. Sure the other tanks get it too, but for like a job like WAR/PLD they were already self-healing more than the enemies could damage them so unless DT dungeon damage massive shoots up, it was already redundant for them anyway and thus has a more prominent effect on DRK's survival in dungeons than theirs.

Apart from the loss of 1 edge every 2 which added up is a massive loss in dps, and considering the job got gutted because "We do the highest damage so we can't have other things" Then they buffed all other tanks dps and have just nerfed ours, It's a complete slap in the face to all Drk players. I wish the whole dev team gets stuck in crunch for eternity in repayment for this expac.

[Kazamaiya]

Not really shocked, not really surprised, just about what i expected. Nothing substantial and just annoyed disappointment....

This doesn't really fix any of the problems people have with Dark Knight, well, maybe a little bit regarding sustain. But aside from that, these changes don't really fix or provide meaningful change to the job's lack of identity and lack of meaningful resource management.

At least if nothing else there's not another 'Enhanced Unmend'-worthy change of so dull it comes across as a joke or insult.

[Kaixern]

At least if nothing else there's not another 'Enhanced Unmend'-worthy change of so dull it comes across as a joke or insult.

Remember, this is only the media tour, there can still be changes.
For better, and (most of the time) for the worse....

(i repeat myself i know, but please devs prove me wrong)

[Kazamaiya]

Remember, this is only the media tour, there can still be changes.

True enough, I guess i still got some hope that it won't get any worse from Media Tour to Release.

[Oizen]

Well if you want to be technical enhanced unmend did get strictly worse by the change to plunge.

In what world are we using gap closers so frequently for the purpose of gap closing where a trait like this needs to exist at all now

[GoatOfWar]

Dark knight somehow manages to be even more braindead in DT than Warrior.

[Ramiee]

Dark knight somehow manages to be even more braindead in DT than Warrior.

I wouldn't go that far at least dark knight's barrier costs mp.

[Kaixern]

I wouldn't go that far at least dark knight's barrier costs mp.

Give it some time.
I hope to be proven wrong but i feel that in the long run, with how much people i saw complain about TBN cost, we might even get homogenized on that point

[GoatOfWar]

I wouldn't go that far at least dark knight's barrier costs mp.

War only got a bunch of new OGCD's. It lost nothing.
Drk just lost a bunch of cooldowns and the *only* new thing it got is 1 new GCD you'll press once every 2 minutes.
Dark knight will legit be easier and lower APM than Warrior somehow.

Drk lost 2 APM from the gapcloser nerf.
It lost 1 APM from the Blood weapon merge.
And it will lose 1 APM from the lower mana economy with the BW nerf.

By contrast, War gained 2 OGCD's on a 60s cooldown.