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    Player
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    Artaius Windcrest
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    At this point, I don't have anything more to say that hasn't already been said. I don't think I've seen anyone pitch the idea of lifesteal while under the Walking Dead effect, so I'll throw it out there and bow out until I've done some lvl 90 content.

    I can't say I'm at all enthusiastic about it, though. I'm going to be playing GNB a lot more from now on, because I don't have much interest in playing a job that's carried by one skill and edgy aesthetics.
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    Ricky' Spanish
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 80
    This!! There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have more of it in general really, soul eater heal is insult to injury due to how low it is. DRK is basically a terrible version of warrior (i also don't understand why warrior even has lifesteal as part of their kit). "DRK needs to be dependant on healers" okay so should everyone else by that logic.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Players years ago that cared about Dark Knight being more like Dark Knight did suggest Walking Dead giving 300% increased potency associated with heals to make it less draining on Healers. But no one really cares and the argument has always been that outside of raids you don't need LD to clear content so why bother. Another idea was putting the old Sole Survivor effects on a Dark Knight or a Doom counter above their character that counts down to signify they need to be healed but that didn't happen either.

    But then you can get into situations where your dungeon group made very big mistakes and the only Tanks that can solo content is Paladin and Warrior with their mitigation and large amount of self heals. Dark Knight and Gunbreaker have low sustain.

    Only way LD can function properly is good comms with your healer.
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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Players years ago that cared about Dark Knight being more like Dark Knight did suggest Walking Dead giving 300% increased potency associated with heals to make it less draining on Healers. But no one really cares and the argument has always been that outside of raids you don't need LD to clear content so why bother. Another idea was putting the old Sole Survivor effects on a Dark Knight or a Doom counter above their character that counts down to signify they need to be healed but that didn't happen either.

    But then you can get into situations where your dungeon group made very big mistakes and the only Tanks that can solo content is Paladin and Warrior with their mitigation and large amount of self heals. Dark Knight and Gunbreaker have low sustain.

    Only way LD can function properly is good comms with your healer.
    I like that idea of increased healing received. It does not lose the concept of it. It does not break the balance. It does not require effort of re-designing a skill.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I like that idea of increased healing received. It does not lose the concept of it. It does not break the balance. It does not require effort of re-designing a skill.
    and yet it's been asked for since stormblood.
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    Honestly at this point we would all be better off slamming them with tickets till they listen. As annoying as it sounds, you want to be heard, hit them where they can't turn it off. Just in case they "forget".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    Honestly at this point we would all be better off slamming them with tickets till they listen. As annoying as it sounds, you want to be heard, hit them where they can't turn it off. Just in case they "forget".
    seeing how that went for GNB and the solid barrel combo sound effects... you're better off just not playing DRK.

    If SE sees a significant drop off of DRK players in content they'll start to *maybe* consider looking into why.
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    Nah, they'll probably just buff warrior again. Scream at them enough and they'll listen
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    Nah, they'll probably just buff warrior again. Scream at them enough and they'll listen
    WAR hasn't been buffed since Heavensward. It's been on a constant decline, albeit slow, but nerfed regardless. Though at least it still keeps its "feel" and "identity" of a burst and high self sustain tank in every expansion instead of being reworked. DRK doesn't have that same luxury.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Though at least it still keeps its "feel" and "identity" of a burst and high self sustain tank in every expansion instead of being reworked.
    That and straightforward capacity (which, for those who care about gameplay, is a bitter reward for identity and iconic elements squandered and then trimmed) are about the limits of its retention, though, sadly.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 10-13-2021 at 08:06 AM.

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