Dark Knight Megathread

[Sazuzaki]

Can't say I mind shadowbringer, in terms of the homogenized generic finishers that every job got for endwalker, it was probably one of the least egregious ones. It doesn't break the job's functionality like Doubledown, and it doesnt have an annoying animation lock like Primal Rend. I don't mind it for what it is, I'd kinda like to see a trait for it that lowers its cooldown for using Edge or something but its fine as what it is.

I'm hoping that new GCD combo they showed is more impactful though.

Honestly fair. I personally don't mind the jank/caveats that comes with skills so long as it's not a glaringly bad issue. My distaste for Shadowbringer comes from how safe they played Endwalker, and the worry that they'll continue to play safe in terms of job design for the foreseeable expansions. I really hope that combo was saw has more interaction than being another Confiteor.

[Zairava]

Can't say I mind shadowbringer, in terms of the homogenized generic finishers that every job got for endwalker, it was probably one of the least egregious ones. It doesn't break the job's functionality like Doubledown, and it doesnt have an annoying animation lock like Primal Rend. I don't mind it for what it is, I'd kinda like to see a trait for it that lowers its cooldown for using Edge or something but its fine as what it is.

I'm hoping that new GCD combo they showed is more impactful though.

Yeah that's fair, I can't argue that. For the most part it gets lumped into "boring damage ogcd #17" for me, but rotationally it probably feels best to use between ShB, Primal Rend and Double Down. If there's a benefit to our current oGCD vomit is that we can more or less mix and match what we weave as we like/how it feels best so long as it doesn't clip our GCD.

Likewise for the GCD combo. Given the style of the animations, it leads me to believe that they might cost some of the Darkside timer, but that may just be wishful thinking.

If my hunch is correct though, it makes me wonder if it's possible that Bloodspiller itself is the catalyst and not Delirium. It opens up the possibility of more varied GCD's during downtime.

[mallleable]

It would be fun if the new DRK combo procs off any Bloodspiller.

[Sazuzaki]

Agreed, but I wonder how Delirium would work then. Bloodspiller -> Combo -> Bloodspiller -> Combo -> Bloodspiller -> Combo

Honestly wouldn't mind it that much lol

[Zairava]

Agreed, but I wonder how Delirium would work then. Bloodspiller -> Combo -> Bloodspiller -> Combo -> Bloodspiller -> Combo

Honestly wouldn't mind it that much lol

Nah, using it so much would wear down the satisfaction of executing it quite quick.

I took the effort to compare both that animation before they give out the obvious 2 GCD's and Edge of Shadow, and they are not the same. If you look close, and I mean extremely close, you can see the Dark Knight swipe twice based on movement in the benchmark there (not withstanding the vfx themselves are different between the Benchmark and Edge of Shadow). You may have to slow it down to .25 speed like I did to really see it.

Given the amount of time it takes to go from one to the next, it is entirely possible it's another GCD. Which fits if they are essentially making Delirium DRK requiescat.

While the possibility of it being an oGCD anyway and they timed it as such on purpose is there, I think it's less likely now.

I still kinda hope Bloodspiller is the catalyst and they do something else with Delirium, either way. Who knows, maybe Delirium even becomes an attack with a potency again, lol.

[Sazuzaki]

True, but lets be real, it most definitely is at least a one minute burst. I honestly want them to reduce the focus on burst skills and focus on improving a jobs downtime since that's what everyone seems to hate on, including me. Don't get me wrong, I do look forward to not seeing bloodspillerbloodspillerbloodspillerbloodspiller, but in the end, the downtime still might be an actual snooze fest. Hope it doesn't seem like I'm trying to find reasons to hate on the changes, I do look forward to them and think they look way better than what we got in Endwalker.

I still kinda hope Bloodspiller is the catalyst and they do something else with Quietus, either way. Who knows, maybe Quietus even becomes an attack with a potency again, lol.

Trueeee, add some usage to AoEs that at least affect single target in some way. AoE skills feel like a waste of a skill slot, and honestly, could just be merged with our single target in favor of better skills. Some sort of incentive to use them during single target without looking like a dummy would be nice.

[Zairava]

True, but lets be real, it most definitely is at least a one minute burst. I honestly want them to reduce the focus on burst skills and focus on improving a jobs downtime since that's what everyone seems to hate on, including me. Don't get me wrong, I do look forward to not seeing bloodspillerbloodspillerbloodspillerbloodspiller, but in the end, the downtime still might be an actual snooze fest. Hope it doesn't seem like I'm trying to find reasons to hate on the changes, I do look forward to them and think they look way better than what we got in Endwalker.



Trueeee, add some usage to AoEs that at least affect single target in some way. AoE skills feel like a waste of a skill slot, and honestly, could just be merged with our single target in favor of better skills. Some sort of incentive to use them during single target without looking like a dummy would be nice.

Oops, I totally missed that I said Quietus in that post when I meant Delirium. I'll be editing that after this post...

Seeing as how we got our combo out of it, I highly doubt Quietus actually manages to survive going into Dawntrail and that the combo itself (post Bloodspiller) does aoe damage.

I really want to hold off on my pessimism until we know the full picture with DRK, because of right now outside of this combo we know nothing and can only speculate. I think even having just one more GCD to maintain would tremendously help our downtime not feel so monotonous.

[Oizen]

If I had to place my guesses, the new GCDs will be linked to when Delirium is Active and Bloodspiller is going to stick around as the overcap spender outside of Delirium.
It seems to me like Delirium is going to get a lot of attention based on what has been shown and leaked so far.

All I can really say is guess we'll see.

[Mecia]

Oops! All Gnashing Fang.

[Titoulakikoute]

IDK if its fine to talk about it here but according to benchmark datamines : ( dont look if you dont want to get spoiled obviously)

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DRk is getting a dark confiteor , basicaly the 3 new skills we see in the benchmark. The new skills will be available under a specific statut ( i guess Delirium obviously) and will replace bloodspiller.

i was thinking that is was dumb from them to make a dark "confiteor" on DRK with nice anims on blood spiller, since u you will actually cancel every of theses animations weaving other shit? lmao or maybe they are reworking delirium too no idea but with the current drk you cancel every bloodspiller while bursting

the lvl 100 skill will likely be on the living shadow button , you press living shadow and under some statut ( delirium?) it will become a new skill