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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    yeah thats the problem with oblation that its gotten so late and comparing it to other tanks lvl 82 ability it obviously seems bad
    but the skill is fine when its compared to stuff like camouflage or thrill of war


    anyway on to PVP DRK
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/darkknight/#pvp
    it has alot of neat stuff
    Plunge resets off sole survivor
    Shadow bringer cost HP
    Bloodspiller does more damage while HP is lower
    and eventide sounds amazing



    They should let the pvp team design pve DRK lol
    when pvp DRK has less skill but actually has gameplay mechanics unlike PVE DRK
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    Oblation is fine honestly im not sure whats people deal with the skill
    I hate that its so late but 10% on 60 seconds with 2 charges is pretty alright

    I do wish Dark mind got some changes.
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    Xrison Wyvernscale
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Oblation is fine honestly im not sure whats people deal with the skill
    I hate that its so late but 10% on 60 seconds with 2 charges is pretty alright

    I do wish Dark mind got some changes.
    The main issue with oblation is that it's a very underwhelming ability at such a high level. While other tanks get significantly better damage mitigation abilities around that level, we get a generic 10% reduction. It just adds more button bloat.

    Now if it did something like gave us 10% damage reduction as well as a 200-250 potency HoT for the duration, THEN people would love it.
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    Luin Vereist
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Oblation is fine honestly im not sure whats people deal with the skill
    I hate that its so late but 10% on 60 seconds with 2 charges is pretty alright

    I do wish Dark mind got some changes.
    Because TBN mitigates less than what Heart of Corundum, Holy Sheltron, and Bloodwhetting will mitigate+heal. Oblation doesn't make up that difference, and it has more than double the cooldown of either of those abilities. And unlike in Shadowbringers, TBN doesn't mitigate significantly more than any of those abilities either. 99% of what you live with TBN+Shadow Wall, you're going to live with Bloodwhetting+Vengeance.
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    changes are pretty good obviously wasn't gonna get some major game play overhaul but finally the job got some QoL that wasn't universal after how many years?
    it would have been nice if Dark missionary was a little earlier so it could be used in lvl 70 content ( aka ultimates).
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    At first I was a little bit peeved to see they nerfed flood of darkness, but then I saw they finally lowered the level for stalwart soul. I guess it all evens out in the long run in regards to that. I am a little bit disappointed they didn't give us any extra sustainability while giving PLD even MORE. I would have been ok with them raising the potency of Souleater a bit and maybe even unlinking abyssal drain and carve & spit again.
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Honestly, with how LD functions now, and while it isn't perfect I'm fine with the current DRK sustain. LD universally astronomically better for both dungeons and raids, there's other aspects they can focus on first now. Like adjusting Dark Mind into something usable for more than magic damage negation, oblation, the overall offensive gameplay of the job, etc.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 04-11-2022 at 10:09 PM. Reason: removed some text after some thought

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xrison View Post
    At first I was a little bit peeved to see they nerfed flood of darkness, but then I saw they finally lowered the level for stalwart soul. I guess it all evens out in the long run in regards to that. I am a little bit disappointed they didn't give us any extra sustainability while giving PLD even MORE. I would have been ok with them raising the potency of Souleater a bit and maybe even unlinking abyssal drain and carve & spit again.
    That Flood change feels like a counter balance seeing as its only for the weak low level version of the skill.

    With Stalwart being a lv 40 skill now, you're going to be using Flood a lot more Often, and it also will enable Quietus to actually be usable starting at lv 64 as its own thing without being some awkward skill entirely dependent on Blood Weapon.
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    Sylvia Crystal
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90




    Souleater and Quietus give a decent chunk of HP, Plunge inflicts Sole Survivor and Salted Earth has tanking benefits instead of being just a boring DoT... WHY IS THIS ALLOWED IN PVP, BUT NOT IN PVE?
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I expected Minimum changes to DRK on Living dead and Blood weapon and thats what we get, i knew that DRK sustain wasn't going to be fixed, dark mind, obliation, our stupid downtime and our cloned habilites, Minimum effort as always, thanks for fixing Living dead after sooooo Many years i wonder if we Will have to wait more than 7 years to fix the Gameplay too at this rate.
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