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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    It is that I'm not taking it personally and claiming they've "kicked us in the face over and over again"?

    It's not about "optimism" versus realism, because you've already gone past what is realistic.
    Except you are taking it personally. If it wasn't personal wouldn't you not move on with your day? Instead of arguing with salty players such as myself and the Dark Knight mob?

    The reality is that DRK is a raid tank and is primarily about having the highest personal DPS and suffers from poor defensives which in the long term is poor tank design.

    Mayhap it's better to just let disgruntled DRKs and Vanilla HW players have their moment?

    To say nothing doesn't really help DRK. Being vocal gives DRK's an outlet even if it falls on deaf ears.

    In the long term I only really see players shifting to the Axe, Gunblade or the Scythe in the long term.

    If DRKs complain and foam at the mouth it isn't because we hate the Devs it's because they love the job and want what's best for the job. And revolving around TBN and a 15 second burst every 2 minutes ain't it chief.
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    At this point I'm beginning to suspect that "what's best for the job" might have a lot in common with the ending of Old Yeller. It seems to be slowly succumbing to the same fate it did in FFXI. It excels at a single thing, but it pays for its one trick by sucking utterly at pretty much everything else and being the only tank healers have to hand hold. It's been like this ever since they destroyed Abyssal Drain, and each successive expansion seems to make it a little worse.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Come 6.1 if DRK stays effectively the same are you going to have Copium for 6.5? 7.0? 8.0?

    I will not be shocked if they buff Holmgang again.

    DRK community: Can you at least do something with Blood Weapon?
    Yoshi P: Aw shit better buff Holmgang
    DRK community: Q_Q Living Dead?
    Yoshi: Buffs Tomahawk
    DRK community: X_X
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    Archwizard's Avatar
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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Come 6.1 if DRK stays effectively the same are you going to have Copium for 6.5? 7.0? 8.0?
    No, I would be upset too after 6.1, considering it's their first opportunity to address DRK in a significant manner that they would be passing up.
    Considering the sheer amount of feedback from both the tanking sphere as a whole and healers, particularly Sages, on both sides of the language divide specifically pointing out DRK at this exact moment, it would be glaring if they didn't mention DRK from here-on.

    But I also... would just drop the job if they didn't do anything for it. I wouldn't drag around a bloated corpse just on the off-chance I ran into Yoshi-P on the street just so I could hold it up and shame him.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    But I also... would just drop the job if they didn't do anything for it. I wouldn't drag around a bloated corpse just on the off-chance I ran into Yoshi-P on the street just so I could hold it up and shame him.
    Oh I don't blame you. I dropped it in SB, picked it up again in ShB, and come announcements for 6.1, I will drop it again unless changes are announced. I will however mark it mentally as "just another reminder of how DRK is unloved by the devs".
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    They really need a bit more transparency on where they are going with jobs. Not just DRK. Liveletters detailing where they want each class to go in the future would be a big step forward IMO. Some form of communication with players would be nice.

    It would be something. Something to illustrate "this is what we are doing and why we are doing it".
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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They really need a bit more transparency on where they are going with jobs. Not just DRK. Liveletters detailing where they want each class to go in the future would be a big step forward IMO. Some form of communication with players would be nice.

    It would be something. Something to illustrate "this is what we are doing and why we are doing it".
    It doesn't even need to be anything that fancy. Live Letters are essentially Steve Jobs-esque keynotes where Yoshi-p gives you the sales pitch on upcoming products. They're great for the big picture, but it's also forces him to hard carry the whole thing. They've got a community team and a Twitch channel that's gathered a fine layer of dust on it for several months. How difficult would it be for them to get a job designer and interpreter out for an interview with their community team to talk about the 'state of tanking' or the 'state of healing'? Likewise, if they want to be able to filter their questions, what would prevent them from doing an AMA on reddit on a similar theme?

    Part of the reason why the information flow feels so slow is because it feels like Yoshi-p is the only one capable of addressing an audience unsupervised to talk about the game. And it's really difficult for one person to know everything about a game of this scale.
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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Character
    Mekhana Souther
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm out. I'm not going to wait 3-6 months to only get disappointed again in the end. It's always been this way.

    Time to get off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride.

    I might resub for story stuff but that's it.
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    Dandelly0n's Avatar
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    Character
    Athos Longreach
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    here I'll give you the perfect blood weapon

    its a 5 stack system recovering 600 mp per gcd. (1min cd)

    At lv 68 it gets upgraded into:
    Delirium giving you 3 stacks of free bloodspiller or quietus recovering 1000mp per gcd (1min cd)

    basically after 68 they're the same button
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    Character
    Artaius Windcrest
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I wasn't expecting anything anyway, but that doesn't stop me being a little disappointed.
    DRKs problems aren't solved with potency changes after all, and considering they've been trying to get new servers up and running, I'm not surprised they haven't done anything mechanical.

    Would have been nice for a healing received buff on walking dead, though.
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