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    Player
    RinaB's Avatar
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    Lily Jun
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    Seraph
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm a GNB main and leveling drk to 84 was enough for me. Cds don't line up, TBN is absolute trash with a resource cost, mitigation is HW outdated and you will die. This class is like a beta version of what it should be and what it is, is baaaaad.
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    Xrison Wyvernscale
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I'm a GNB main and leveling drk to 84 was enough for me. Cds don't line up, TBN is absolute trash with a resource cost, mitigation is HW outdated and you will die. This class is like a beta version of what it should be and what it is, is baaaaad.
    I have to agree with you. After getting all four tanks up to the same level, I can say that WAR & PLD are super easy mode when tanking. GNB is a little bit more difficult but WAY more fun, IMO. DRK however, is just sad. It's so clunky to play and just isn't fun. DRK has my favorite aesthetic and job story, so I really hope it gets a complete overhaul at some point so that it's a viable tank for dungeons and progression. Everyone keeps focusing on endgame raids and the fact that it does the most DPS, but they keep forgetting that there's content other than endgame raids.
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    Last edited by Xrison; 01-22-2022 at 04:15 AM.

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Oblation doesn't really do anything on its own.
    I don't think 10% is enough to warrant throwing it onto a player that doesn't have Tank HP to back it up. Its simply not impactful enough, and its questionable if DRK even needed it to begin with
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't forget that Oblation exists but considering all tank busters are magical in this savage tier...
    I pop a 20% or 30% Cooldown, put on TBN and Dark mind most of them.

    Which mean we have a 30% + 20%, around 44% reduction with a 25% HP shield.
    If I were to add oblation on top of it... Due to the way mitigation is calculated, it would be a whooping 6% reduction. Am I right?

    If you get KO by 6% the problem definitely lies elsewhere. Ironically, it's because Dark Mind is useful that Oblation is that bad.
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    Player
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I don't forget that Oblation exists but considering all tank busters are magical in this savage tier...
    I pop a 20% or 30% Cooldown, put on TBN and Dark mind most of them.

    Which mean we have a 30% + 20%, around 44% reduction with a 25% HP shield.
    If I were to add oblation on top of it... Due to the way mitigation is calculated, it would be a whooping 6% reduction. Am I right?

    If you get KO by 6% the problem definitely lies elsewhere. Ironically, it's because Dark Mind is useful that Oblation is that bad.
    Honestly the only time I'm using Oblation is entirely as a filler click, I click it when one is ready to be put up and i guess it takes a bit of chip damage off.
    Does this make the slightest difference in survivability? no not at all.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Character
    Dusk Himmel
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    2 charges
    can target others
    10% is decent mit
    cool pose
    all of this sounds decent but compared to other tanks its lacking if it replaced Dark mind for lower levels it be a bit more well received.

    I like it but this as a lvl 82 skill feels out of place
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    Lily Jun
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    Seraph
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xrison View Post
    I have to agree with you. After getting all four tanks up to the same level, I can say that WAR & PLD are super easy mode when tanking. GNB is a little bit more difficult but WAY more fun, IMO. DRK however, is just sad. It's so clunky to play and just isn't fun. DRK has my favorite aesthetic and job story, so I really hope it gets a complete overall at some point so that it's a viable tank for dungeons and progression. Everyone keeps focusing on endgame raids and the fact that it does the most DPS, but they keep forgetting that there's content other than endgame raids.
    Exactly and even on bosses it's trash because soul eater is worse then brutal shell. So even the 123 is shit...at this point I have no idea why this job exists given its state for the last 5 years.
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    Character
    Xrison Wyvernscale
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Exactly and even on bosses it's trash because soul eater is worse then brutal shell. So even the 123 is shit...at this point I have no idea why this job exists given its state for the last 5 years.
    Yep. Brutal Shell is superior in every way. Effectively a 400 potency heal/shield combo without the risk of overhealing. It's really no contest.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    TBN and LD are just garbage abilities. TBN is just a damage shield to cover up how bad DRK is designed as a Tank. It's a job class designed for masochists that hate themselves.
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