Dark Knight Megathread

[stanleyyoung]

i do agree with drk needing changes/overhaul etc and i do see the issue with identity. general consensus from forums is its a warrior clone or wanna be at that otherwise is jumbled up mess. in my opinion if SE would step back think then plan out how drk identifies then its lore once that's established they can create the abilities, spells, etc for it to carry that out. in many ways we see pld has its identity then lore and finally abilities to carry out its playstyle for the most part we hope drk can get same treatment.

[Hart]

Really all they would need to do to fix Living Dead is to just remove the walking dead status. Let it keep the dark knight alive at 0 HP (instead of at 1 with walking dead status), keeping in line with the name unless you're still at zero at the end of the timer. Boom, problem solved. I don't understand why this job is the only tank skill with the caveat that it has to be healed to full or you just die. It can't be lore related, because we all know that typically healing the undead in Final Fantasy games hurts them. We're not asking for "unhallowed ground", just not to die without FULL intervention.

[Danelo]

I played rpr for the first time yesterday and I can’t help but think there were things held back from DRK for RPR. *****Fun*****

It’s just fun. It’s not a burden to play and you don’t get the nagging feeling you are burdening your group by virtue of the job you brought.

I started tanking for DRK but that job has been dead for a long time it’s back to DPS I go.

[RyuDragnier]

I played rpr for the first time yesterday and I can’t help but think there were things held back from DRK for RPR. *****Fun*****

I noticed it too. Arcane Crest's HoT effect feels like something that was originally meant for DRK.

[RatCopter]

If we're spitballing ideas for Living Dead again, I'd like to see it work along the lines of "set your HP to 1 and can't go below for 10s, heal for a portion of damage taken at the end of duration."
Itd be like putting health aside for later.

[Valknut]

If we're spitballing ideas for Living Dead again, I'd like to see it work along the lines of "set your HP to 1 and can't go below for 10s, heal for a portion of damage taken at the end of duration."
Itd be like putting health aside for later.

I think they should just turn living dead into a reward to push. Push it, it triggers at 1 hp and you start healing from DMG taken up to max HP and then the Invuln ends.

[saber_alter]

1. What issue with Dark Knight do you have since 5.0?
My dislike of dark knight currently boils down to three things:
1. The job's offensive tool kit lacks any sort of synergy, containing three different gauges to maintain with little to no interaction between them.
2. The majority of OGCD skills the job possesses do not interact at all with the job's core mechanics, and instead are simply fire and forget skills that you use during buff windows.
3. Their defensive kit is weak in comparison to the other tank jobs, and often require heavy drawbacks in comparison for similar skills. not to mention the lack of self healing.

2. Is there a viable solution to your problem? If so, write it down.
1. Not without a complete rework i feel.
2. as above, though it would be a good idea to cut down on the number of OGCDs. several of them at this point exist more as filler than anything.
3. Give dark knight some form of self heal beyond abyssal drain and soul eater, remove the drawback from tbn and tie oblation into it in some way, rework living dead to be a more fun skill to use.

3. What did you like about previous iterations of Dark Knight?
I liked that hw dark knight had a specific rotation, and the way dark arts was implemented felt interesting. You didn't spam it, and many defensive cds could take advantage of the mechanic. SB dark knight was very clunky, but i loved how delerium worked, and loved how rewarding TBN was to use.
4. How did DRK capture your interest while playing FFXIV?
Heavensward previews did a lot of work for me on that. Fell in love immediately while playing it due to the animations and story. wish they could have kept the design philosophy it initially had.

[Xrison]

Alright, so let's say that square enix has read all of our complaints and have decided to rework Dark Knight to make it more viable as a tank. What is this soonest we could expect to see changes implemented? Do they wait until large patch releases to make changes like this? Or is there a chance we could see improvements with 6.1?

[Kalaam]

6.4 for the biggest changes.
A complete rework would be 7.0

[RLTygurr]

Anything before 6.3 is extremely generous unless they've been planning to rework even before 6.0 launch but needed more time. There's always the small possibility that most of DRK's 80-90 skills and traits were basically placeholders until the official rework comes out sometime later.

Maybe that's the copium talking, though.