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  1. #1181
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    If they simply were equivalent for multi and single target it'd be fine. But C&S doesn't even have a heal effect, if it was something a 600 or 800 potency heal (more or less what you'd get from using AD on a pack of ennemies) then yeah I'd get it.
    But here it's just... bad. Yeah it removes a bit of spammy aspect in openers, but then Edge is now 1 second of CD, so you can just spam that instead.
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  2. #1182
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    Wayback's Avatar
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    Ariyunae Gharl
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    It looks like it, but it seems like the potency of C&S was buffed by 150 from the Media Tour version, meaning Ad's damage has been folded into it.

    I like how it now hits like a truck like a capstone should, and that AD restores MP. I just wish they gave C&S a cure potency to boot.
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  3. #1183
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah at least C&S really feels like a big deal now.

    Apparently some are theorizing that DRK will have the highest dps of the tanks. That's all well and good but it doesn't make up for mechanical boredom.
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  4. #1184
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    All that Salted Earth and Esteem junk when they are situational, clunky and unsatisfying beyond the Shadowbringers Job Action trailer.

    Even without Unmend breaking combos I can probably count in one hand the past month the times I used it mid-fight. The Enhanced trait won't change that, especially with this junk still being a spell for some unknown reason.

    Salted needs a cooldown reduction to really matter. The ten potency nerf (!) is hilarious.

    LS needs a rework. It should last until Esteem executes its entire move set.
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    Last edited by Mekhana; 12-02-2021 at 08:28 PM.

  5. #1185
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Agner View Post
    AD sharing a cooldown with C&S is cracking me up
    It would make a ton, a ton of sense if CnS now had a decent self-heal to it. It really should, what possible reason is there for DRK lose all of its self-sustain cooldown against single target? Just why.
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  6. #1186
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Disappointed by the media tour build and they made it actually worse. I literally do not care if I am going to be the highest DPS tank as rumored if the kit feels just loaded with a bunch of ogcds that are gated by CD only with no interaction.

    ...and PLD gets to have lower MP costs so they can theoretically use more Holy Spirit / Circle for healing while being decent in damage AND they get to keep their two target AOE efficiency under Req AND they start with full Oath now.

    Literally, f*** this. Bravo Six, going Deus Vult, I refuse to play this.
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  7. #1187
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    PLD starting with full Oath makes sense, other tanks have their defensive CD usable from the start of the fight too. That, I wouldn't be mad about.
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  8. #1188
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    PLD starting with full Oath makes sense, other tanks have their defensive CD usable from the start of the fight too. That, I wouldn't be mad about.
    Oh make no mistake, Im happy for PLD, this was a massive gripe of mine for ever since they axed Bulwark.

    It's just they made PLD endlessly better while actually managing to make DRK worse. Im mad at the devs, not the jobs.
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  9. #1189
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    They really need some dedicated tank devs (same for healers and ranged)
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  10. #1190
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    Ariyunae Gharl
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    It just feels so bizarre because at lv60, DRK could really do with a decent self heal, and tying it to C&S makes sense especially now with this change.

    But no, we have a shield ten levels later so no dice. And no we don't get any changes to Living Dead, why would you want that??
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