Dungeons Need a Gear check system

[ItMe]

Had a tank in Snowcloak (min iLvl 80) with a lvl 43 weapon and lvl 46 body piece. The rest of the left hand side was under 80 but the right hand side was tomestone accessories and thats what got them in. I think they saw that the accessories were cheaper and started from there.

How did the run go?

[MrMagic]

How did the run go?

Complete and utter wipe fest. Tank was also playing badly and standing in everything so the terrible gear just compounded the issue. I ended up tanking the bosses a bit with Titan as the tank wouldn't bother using Provoke after they had hit the floor. There was no problem with the healer. They were the one who brought it up and if they decided to vote kick I would have clicked yes. They were a Mentor though and decided to push through it and offer advice.

Bunnies went well. Markers and party chat were ignored by the other English speaking DPS until 2/3rds through the fight. It was a slow dungeon.

My point was that the stats are weighted toward the main hand then body / pants so the gear on that tank was a terrible combo.

[Felien]

Had a tank in Snowcloak (min iLvl 80) with a lvl 43 weapon and lvl 46 body piece. The rest of the left hand side was under 80 but the right hand side was tomestone accessories and thats what got them in. I think they saw that the accessories were cheaper and started from there.

This is not perfect but i don't see it as a problem at all, btw i'm a main healer. I really don't undestand why is a big deal, just because you are going to need the heal him more than 1 time in the hole dng? Need to remamber that Snowcloak is a lv 50 dng so is that far.

I wish that once the player hit lv 50 they recive enought poetic to buy a full set of the ironwoks gear, because could help then get into HW even faster. HW and SB, they can already do that.

And let's be honest we have always complete the expansions with some parts of our gear or acc max ilvl from the last expansion.

So why some ppl want that they need to buy the BIS for every level? Plus the Sync is not even close to be good, just try to do A1S sync looks like A1 back then.

[Shurrikhan]

TBH the min ilv should be per piece and not average.

So people can be locked out by having gotten unlucky with wrist drops, even while the rest is fine? No.

Weighted contribution would be fine.

[Stepjam]

So people can be locked out by having gotten unlucky with wrist drops, even while the rest is fine? No.

Weighted contribution would be fine.

Generally I agree, but you occasionally can have situations where weighted backfires. The most infamous run for me was Akademia Anyder where the tank had entirely augmented scaevan gear on left side aside from weapon (which was stage 1 relic) and maybe the belt. Right side must have been higher level gear so the tank barely qualified, but since left side gear definitely matters more than right side, they were barely able to handle single pulls and got kicked right after the first boss.

I dunno what the solution to that is other than maybe have a minimum ilvl for individual pieces that's lower than the min average ilvl, but that might be getting too in the weeds. It was a pretty unusual situation to say the least.

[Shurrikhan]

Generally I agree, but you occasionally can have situations where weighted backfires. The most infamous run for me was Akademia Anyder where the tank had entirely augmented scaevan gear on left side aside from weapon (which was stage 1 relic) and maybe the belt. Right side must have been higher level gear so the tank barely qualified, but since left side gear definitely matters more than right side, they were barely able to handle single pulls and got kicked right after the first boss.

How is that not nonetheless a significant improvement over their ilvl being propped up only by their right side, with their Defense and Weapon DPS (and Strength and Vitality, to a lesser extent) being that of one 40 ilvl too low?

Again, at that point you're merely arguing for increased ilvl requirements, not a change to the system itself.

By all means, do both, but an unweighted system allows for a far greater shortfall in stats (especially those most meaningful) than does a weighted one. Having each slot contribute to the average ilvl rating as much as it can contribute to your overall stats is objectively better.

[Anhra]

I wish more people would run undergeared into Dungeons, so that i dont fall asleep on the job as a healer.

[Laerune]

I wish more people would run undergeared into Dungeons, so that i dont fall asleep on the job as a healer.

Aslong as you dps, you shouldnt be bored.

[Almagnus1]

Aslong as you dps, you shouldnt be bored.

I'd agree with you if WHM had an actual DPS rotation...

[Anhra]

Aslong as you dps, you shouldnt be bored.

Spamming one Button and pressing a second one every 30sec is hardly something i'd call fun.