Unpopular Opinion: Flare Star should be restricted from Duels

[MPK]

Dude it's casual content. Chill.

[Warlyx]

what? why bother...SE added flare star ..SE let ppl use flare star on duels...

if SE doesnt care ,i dont care ....why u care? :P

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Dunno.
Considering how unfriendly the duel themselves to prog, I’d rather have them leave Flare Star alone.

I don’t fancy how the duel disappears right away when the duelist gets incapacitated, or withdraws for whatever reason. I wish they would choose 3 players at random order (or in this case, based on notoriety) to have an opportunity to accept the challenge. Should the first player fails, there’s still 2nd & 3rd player in queue; moreover this makes it easier for the observer to learn the mechanics for each encounters. Sure we have YT & other source of guides, but seeing the real stuff yourself is almost always better.

[Deceptus]

Why are you trying to gatekeep these titles?

Bozja isn't exactly hardcore content.

[KageTokage]

The thing that confuses me most is that they swiftly fixed the Dabog glitch that caused him to stop using mechanics if you re-raised on his enrage laser, yet they don't seem to care about people virtually skipping the duels entirely using the Flare Star nonsense.

Moreso because the fix only affects the people who were trying to do the duels normally. It's almost like they want people to cheese them or something...though that would be odds with their original vision of the duels being a challenge and a social activity of sorts where people learn from watching others attempt them.

If they really wanted to fix it, though, I think the best thing would be to just immediately dispel any personal buffs if they are not currently active in your Lost Action loadout to prevent the ridiculous levels of buff stacking that are possible presently.

[Vyrerus]

As someone else said, there are comparable methods to Lost Flare Star that are just as "cheesy" and end the duel quickly. Frankly it makes sense that the WoL could end duels with imperials quickly too, since we're supposed to be the creme de la creme. Hell, even if it were the only cheese method, I'd love to see it enacted as much as possible so that the players crush duels and people get the mettle buff and have a faster time farming Zadnor/Honors/Everything. Winning duels is good for everyone.

As for why they'd fix an enrage bug, it was likely an exercise for them to fix, so that if it happens to a more important fight later on down the line, they have a precedent for fixing it/comparable scenario to bounce ideas off of to find the issue.

[ItMe]

But, the only restriction on it is that only one Flare Star DoT can be active on the target at the same time. Since there's only one person in the duel, there's no problem, right?

Furthermore people have been speed-killing the duels without Flare Star prior to its introduction but especially with other DR/Zadnor skills too.
Should WAR be blocked from using deep irregular with noble ends/font of power/font of skill? Should WHM be blocked from using deep profane/seraph strike/noble ends? Because both of those also result in sub-75s duels in the first zone, and it's only gotten better with the introduction of skills like Blood Rage.

Heck, WAR with max valor stacks and bubble/protect 2 can straight up eat Dabog conal attacks and live at the cost of a damage down for a short time, which isn't a problem if you're using Blood Rage looping. Is that sufficiently broken as to be worth banning?

Trying to gate the 'prestige' of winning the duels behind an arbitrary barrier of using actions that are somehow insufficiently game-breaking seems a little misguided at best and actively against the spirit of the lost action system at worst

Well said ~

[Axxion]

I mean, nobody complains about the mettle boost after they use this. I really dont see the problem. Besides if you decide not to use it thats fine, however if you choose to use the lost flare then its also fine. Trust me when i say this, my time is important if i cant get the items i need after 50+ time i do it, im going to do it the easy way.

[SilverObi]

Trying to gate the 'prestige' of winning the duels behind an arbitrary barrier of using actions that are somehow insufficiently game-breaking seems a little misguided at best and actively against the spirit of the lost action system at worst

100% agree. Seems fitting here as it was in the last complaint thread about this


Same flavor of whining they had when you could unsync content so it's not surprising.

[Wind-Krysvein]

I was always under the impression that Flare Star was made for the express purpose of giving BLMs a way of dealing more continuous damage, more reliably. Their lack of mobility as the only casting heavy DPS makes it otherwise rather difficult, due to bullet hell boss design.

Needless to say, the fact that other magical DPS are allowed to use it as well is somewhat odd, even if BLMs have the easiest time refreshing their MP pool. I wouldn't have many complaints if they decided to make the action BLM exclusive.