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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    Reaper Lv 90

    Map parties FFA vs owner need

    How do you feel about the stances for map parties. I for one been in both types. The thing is I prefer if it is my map per say for example I rather be owner need since it was my map which I either gathered or bought.

    How do you guys/girls feel?
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Was there a question in there?
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    FFA because maps are layers of rng on top of rng, and the last time I ran with a group that was map owner need... one person lucked out and won millions of gil in (multiple) minions and crafted pieces, while me and my friend got close to nothing valuable or wanted at all for our maps. I wasn't even claiming need on half my own stuff either because everyone in the group is contributing to every map.

    Imo, as long as you bring one map to the party, you should be able to roll on everything. Exceptions being if there's one thing somebody really wants, then we'll throw that out ahead of time and help each other out usually. It's why I just run with friends, really.
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    Daemius's Avatar
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    Talia Rai
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    FFA is best in general. If you're actually trying to get something specific (dont, just farm the money to buy it on the mb), then I run a variant of owner need with friends where it's owner gets to need on one thing per each of their maps but otherwise it's FFA.
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    It's basically the same RNG.
    With owner need you can get all the loots if your maps spawn portals, but won't get anything if they don't.
    With FFA you can get loots even if your maps don't spawn portals, but there's a chance you won't get any loot for your own map's portal.

    So none is really better than the other.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    My fc does map owner. Bit we also tend to just give each other the minions and rolls we need when they drop so...
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Capybara Friend
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 70
    FFA. Owner needs seems just unfair to me.

    You can bring 5 maps, get only 1 portal that ends after the first room and gain basically nothing, while someone who brought 2 can get to the last room and cash in like crazy.
    If everyone participates in killing the mobs, everyone should get a chance to roll. /shrug
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    im baby

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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Absolutely FFA.

    Exact same chances long term, but no one gets screwed if the group disbands when some people got to run 3 maps and a few only got 2 done. No one can steal "your" loot. It's just a more PF friendly system. Maps are generally dirt cheap or easy to gather anyway, if we run in FC I don't even care if people bring one or not.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    FFA
    There is no way to enforce Owner Need, and I've been in parties where it's not respected and I lost loot. Best to just have FFA from the beginning then so no one gets jerked over.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    FFA is far less drama because no "accidents" will happen. Everyone is going to be making a fair amount of gil and have equal chance at winning the rarer loots. At most, the party leader just needs to make sure everyone is contributing a map.

    If you prefer owner need, then join only those parties.
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