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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Do not change one single thing about Limsa. Noone in the real world talks about making a city less busy by intentionally sabotaging it so why would they do it in an MMO. What would this accomplish honestly? Make Limsa the starting city for a lot of new people feel dead and spread the games population thin?!??!?!

    I spend more time sitting in Limsa listening to bards and talking to people then any other activity in this game.
    Reading the OP before replying to it is still the rarity, I see...

    The suggestions were as simple as "Make other Cities, especially the ones level-capped players would want to be at, as convenient as Limsa." No part of the OP asked for Limsa to be degraded.
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    A market board near either the Grindania or Ul Dah aethers would be out of place. The shops aren't located there and Limsa is just fine the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    A market board near either the Grindania or Ul Dah aethers would be out of place. The shops aren't located there and Limsa is just fine the way it is.
    If we finally no longer held city design hostage to PS3 days and combined the cities' halves, I see little issue with Gridania having a second market board on the main aetheryte side of the market hall. Similarly, I don't much see an issue with their being a second market board in Ul'duh near to the Flame Hall (facing the main aetheryte), especially if with a faint revision to that little area.

    But again, the emphasis in the OP was on new cities, requiring little more than that the markets be in the subsection of the city nearest the aetheryte and maybe, just maybe, that we finally don't locate the tome trader and markets of any level-cap area zones apart from each other. Would it really be so bad for Sharlayan, for instance, to have both the tome trader and a market board?
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-26-2021 at 08:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Do not change one single thing about Limsa. Noone in the real world talks about making a city less busy by intentionally sabotaging it so why would they do it in an MMO.
    The OP doesn't say anything about changing Limsa Lominsa, much less sabotaging it, at least as of the timing of this post.

    As for me, I never really had any issue with Limsa Lominsa. Most of my characters have historically either started in Limsa Lominsa and/or joined the Maelstrom.

    That said, I also wouldn't mind going with the OP's suggestion.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    If we finally no longer held city design hostage to PS3 days and combined the cities' halves, I see little issue with Gridania having a second market board on the main aetheryte side of the market hall. Similarly, I don't much see an issue with their being a second market board in Ul'duh near to the Flame Hall (facing the main aetheryte), especially if with a faint revision to that little area.

    But again, the emphasis in the OP was on new cities, requiring little more than that the markets be in the subsection of the city nearest the aetheryte and maybe, just maybe, that we finally don't locate the tome trader and markets of any level-cap area zones apart from each other. Would it really be so bad for Sharlayan, for instance, to have both the tome trader and a market board?
    It's fine the way it is in Gridania and Ul Dah. You're entitled to your opinion certainly. I'm not opposed to having new cities have the markets closer to the aethers although that might limit creativity with respect to new city layouts. Perhaps they will be. But seems to me the marketboards belong in market districts and not located willy nilly around the city but that's just me.

    I might add that it would be nice if World Transfer and soon to be Data Center transfer were to be allowed in cities besides the main 3 currently because that too contributes to the congestion of people going there to transfer.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 06-26-2021 at 09:38 PM.

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    I'm fine with Limsa staying unique in how close the boards are to the aetheryte, because it keeps the market bots there and I can just not go there to avoid the congestion.

    Ideally, the bots would be dealt with instead, but let's not get our hopes up.
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  7. #27
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    Personally instead of all this, I wish the "endgame" cities game with market boards. Mor Dhona, Idylshire, Rhagler's Reach and Eulmore all would benefit from having one there imo. (Also the saucer too but I just like hanging out there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    The sole reason why Limsa Lominsa is extremely congested and popular is due to one simple reason: the Market Board and Summoning Bell is adjacent to the city's main Aetheryte. To wit, this is the only city that has this. Moving forward, if more cities had Market Boards/Summoning Bells adjacent to their main aetheryte, people would spread out more across various cities instead of congregating solely in Limsa, reducing congestion.

    As an aside, if new hub cities in future expansions had this, most players would probably idle and hang out here. Compared to Limsa, which is a starting city, a final hub city in 6.0 or 7.0 is gated behind HUNDREDS of hours of gameplay to reach. This means the countless level 1 accounts that shout advertisements for RMT links would not be able to reach these areas. So 1) you create a space players want to be because of its convenience (which is why Limsa is so popular) and 2) you make a city that's difficult for newly-generated RMT accounts to get to. If RMT want to get to these zones to shout their ads, they'd either need to play through the story or pay for story skips (which is a waste of their money because RMT accounts are banned frequently and rapidly).
    I see more players hanging out in Eulmore than I do around the Limsa Aetheryte despite the lack of a MB. I also see a lot of players hanging out at the Aetherytes in Gridania and Ul'dah. The MB traffic might add to Limsa congestion but it's not the main reason why others are choosing Limsa to AFK.

    You're never going to completely thin out the traffic around the ARR city states because all new characters are being filtered through those places and veteran players trying to show off to new players are going to stay where the new players are.

    If the goal is to solve the extra congestion Limsa gets at the Aetheryte, SE would be better off moving East Hawker's Alley to the north side of West Hawker's Alley or swapping it with the Arcanist guild than remaking other cities so their MBs are by their Aetherytes and causing additional congestion issues in those cities.

    As for the RMT bots, I get their spam in Gridania and Ul'dah just as much as I do in Limsa. Sounds like you never leave Limsa yourself to know it happens elswhere.
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    Just let the game auto squelch them after reporting them like wow does.

    Right click, report, suddenly you can't see anything that not says until you log out and in again.

    Would be great.
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    #DeleteLimsa
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