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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I mean, alternatively, they could just move the Limsa Aetheryte to the Top Mast area (near the Moogle Mail carrier). It feels like that was the original design (as it's near the Grand Company like the other two cities).

    I'd like to think the Devs purposefully moved it either A) for better visual impact or B) for better "flow" moving around the city.

    I get it, it's annoying, but I like to think that's kinda the point of Limsa- it's supposed to have a lot of people loitering around and general skulking.
    From a logistical view, it was a bad idea to move it to its current location if we were to go with ingame logic. You'd want it near the entrance to avoid invaders who have already attuned to the aetheryte from having free reign of the city, and it'd be in open view to where Maelstrom and various pirate crews (who have offices and quarters near the entrance) can destroy any invaders that appear there. It's also further away from the civilian quarters and from the office of the Admiral, who I don't think anybody wants going down too quickly. Not to mention if it's near the water the Sahagin could hide and destroy any reinforcements that would show up from the Aetheryte.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I mean, alternatively, they could just move the Limsa Aetheryte to the Top Mast area (near the Moogle Mail carrier). It feels like that was the original design
    The original aetheryte plaza in LL was a large room that is right about where the Missing Member is now, and the GC hall was in a spot that iirc is inaccessible now. The place the GC hall is now is a completely new building since LL is the most dramatically changed city in the game from v1 to arr. I do think it would have been better in the circle but it makes sense where they put it, simply because there was just a large stone needle there instead of the aetheryte and it was quite boring.
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    @Ryu: agreed- I am happy with where it is personally.

    @Micah- I meant the original design or thought for 2.0, not 1.0. Of course I am 100% assuming based on how Gridania and Ul’dah are set up.

    Where it is now is more visually… relevant? to Limsa’s image (can see the ocean, boats, etc), so I think while congestion is an issue, I think it is the best choice.
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    Limsa taking revenge for its dark lonely 1.X days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Do not change one single thing about Limsa. Noone in the real world talks about making a city less busy by intentionally sabotaging it so why would they do it in an MMO. What would this accomplish honestly? Make Limsa the starting city for a lot of new people feel dead and spread the games population thin?!??!?!

    I spend more time sitting in Limsa listening to bards and talking to people then any other activity in this game.
    Reading the OP before replying to it is still the rarity, I see...

    The suggestions were as simple as "Make other Cities, especially the ones level-capped players would want to be at, as convenient as Limsa." No part of the OP asked for Limsa to be degraded.
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    A market board near either the Grindania or Ul Dah aethers would be out of place. The shops aren't located there and Limsa is just fine the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    A market board near either the Grindania or Ul Dah aethers would be out of place. The shops aren't located there and Limsa is just fine the way it is.
    If we finally no longer held city design hostage to PS3 days and combined the cities' halves, I see little issue with Gridania having a second market board on the main aetheryte side of the market hall. Similarly, I don't much see an issue with their being a second market board in Ul'duh near to the Flame Hall (facing the main aetheryte), especially if with a faint revision to that little area.

    But again, the emphasis in the OP was on new cities, requiring little more than that the markets be in the subsection of the city nearest the aetheryte and maybe, just maybe, that we finally don't locate the tome trader and markets of any level-cap area zones apart from each other. Would it really be so bad for Sharlayan, for instance, to have both the tome trader and a market board?
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-26-2021 at 08:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    If we finally no longer held city design hostage to PS3 days and combined the cities' halves, I see little issue with Gridania having a second market board on the main aetheryte side of the market hall. Similarly, I don't much see an issue with their being a second market board in Ul'duh near to the Flame Hall (facing the main aetheryte), especially if with a faint revision to that little area.

    But again, the emphasis in the OP was on new cities, requiring little more than that the markets be in the subsection of the city nearest the aetheryte and maybe, just maybe, that we finally don't locate the tome trader and markets of any level-cap area zones apart from each other. Would it really be so bad for Sharlayan, for instance, to have both the tome trader and a market board?
    It's fine the way it is in Gridania and Ul Dah. You're entitled to your opinion certainly. I'm not opposed to having new cities have the markets closer to the aethers although that might limit creativity with respect to new city layouts. Perhaps they will be. But seems to me the marketboards belong in market districts and not located willy nilly around the city but that's just me.

    I might add that it would be nice if World Transfer and soon to be Data Center transfer were to be allowed in cities besides the main 3 currently because that too contributes to the congestion of people going there to transfer.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 06-26-2021 at 09:38 PM.

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    I'm fine with Limsa staying unique in how close the boards are to the aetheryte, because it keeps the market bots there and I can just not go there to avoid the congestion.

    Ideally, the bots would be dealt with instead, but let's not get our hopes up.
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Personally instead of all this, I wish the "endgame" cities game with market boards. Mor Dhona, Idylshire, Rhagler's Reach and Eulmore all would benefit from having one there imo. (Also the saucer too but I just like hanging out there).
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