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  1. #41
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    My elezen is fine just the way she is, thanks
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  2. #42
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    I personally don't want to see any drastic changes to Elezen. I've been playing Eva for 8 years now, and I'm attached to the way she is.

    More character creator options for all races are welcome though.
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  3. #43
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    In that case, just delete everything that is unpopular. I don't want to see the game held back by a minority of players. Might as well make Roe's short and skinny and delete Hrothgars entirely. And also stop making the masculine hair that you crave. I'm sure that would be a popular feature, considering a majority of this game is female characters and want long hair. Oh, also just remove savages and put more of that development time into Gold Saucer/crafting. Since more people engage in that.

    Also, WoW did not change the basics of the race. Trolls still had two toes (despite the feet being unpopular) and warts on the face, worgen still had no tails, there is still no human skin tone options for goblins, and Kul Tirans are still only fat (granted none of the allied races have been touched but people reeee about Kul Tirans always)... PSO2 has also not changed their races at all, so I'm unsure where this plays into it.
    Trolls have three toes. Look at the back of the heel on females at least.

    That's a toenail.
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  4. #44
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Every argument for changing Elezen can be applied to other unpopular things like Roes, Hrothgar, and niche content like savages and ultimates - but Elezen are always brought up first because people want to ogle waifu with pointy ear. It's shallow, ultimately pointless, draining to resources, and will ostracize those who want to play a race with a non-human body type.

    |ew faces are great. New animations are great. Changing a non-human body shape to more human because some people don't like it and apparently cannot play the other four races with human body types is not great.
    This! I notice it's mostly people who don't even play elezen who want to change them. I like elezen because they're kind of inhuman and unique.

    More faces and options will always be welcome, but they shouldn't go changing the actual body structure of a long existing race.
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  5. #45
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    This! I notice it's mostly people who don't even play elezen who want to change them. I like elezen because they're kind of inhuman and unique.

    More faces and options will always be welcome, but they shouldn't go changing the actual body structure of a long existing race.
    they just need bigger heads, that's it. female elezen look fine to me but they would also look way better with a bigger head. but it's far more noticeable on male elezen because they have such broad and flat shoulders that it emphasizes their tiny pea head. in terms of proportion/scale, they should make them look like edemont. he has a custom head (obviously) but also his head is slightly bigger, and his neck isn't quite as long. that's my biggest gripe with them as someone who has spent quite a bit of time as an elezen in the past, and part of the reason why i'm looking forward to male viera. good proportions, decent height, nice animations.
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  6. #46
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    Caur Kagon
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I'd argue that instead of a rework, SE's time would be better spent diversifying the gear catalogue to better fit the shape of the none waifu races. For example, they could do large, billowing cloaks that would work well with the Elezen frame.
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  7. #47
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I don't think anything should be remade/ redone/ reworked, but MORE options is always preferred.

    I hope with a graphics engine update that the team can put in morphers to give us some level of body CC and more faces for all races. Being able to pick a different run cycle can't be THAT hard to add into a new engine, Sega did it.
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  8. #48
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    I often talk about Guildwars 2..so sorry for repetition, but they often added hairstyles and face options with each expansion. For example, the 2nd expansion was generally “African/Middle East” themed, so the new options made for excellent options reflecting the people of those regions. Not just a goofy Afro, but actual legit and stylish options.

    I would love to see some general new options with each expansion, and maybe remove the options that don’t really matter (like jawline or nose is really really not that noticeable….)

    (Humans, for reference: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phy...pearance/Human)
    (Norn, huge kinda Roe kinda Highlander-ish, for reference: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phy...ppearance/Norn)

    Humans, being the most used race, get the most options..if anyone was curious why the difference.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 06-26-2021 at 11:08 AM.

  9. #49
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    the only things that tend to look bad on elezen are things that emphasize the neckline, armor with chain willl always look terrible because it stretches to fit and looks wrong. the head and neck are the problem, and you can literally see the seam of the neck

    and how it works is that most races share a skeleton (male au ra, male elezen, male miqote, and presumably male viera share the male hyur body/skeleton), roegadyn/hrothgar share one, lalafell is unique, as well as male highlander. the same is true for the females but i think female highlanders use the female hyur one too
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Trolls have three toes. Look at the back of the heel on females at least.

    That's a toenail.
    Bruh- I'm a fake troll fan.

    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    This! I notice it's mostly people who don't even play elezen who want to change them. I like elezen because they're kind of inhuman and unique.

    More faces and options will always be welcome, but they shouldn't go changing the actual body structure of a long existing race.
    100%. I like them because I love Elvaan from FF11 and Guado from 10. I even love the run animation that people seem to hate cuz it's a prim little jog.

    Those who don't like the proportions of Elezen have four races to choose from. Five if you count Highlanders separate. If you want to play something a little different but not be a furry, you have... Elezen and Roegaydn which fill two very different niches.
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