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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralia View Post
    Yes, when I said "make a contract", I forgot to mention the contract is established after they attune to the remnant aether or an aspected aether in a specific region, almost juxtaposed to an aether node of the land (For that matter, SMN make a contract with Ifrit in a fire aspected aether region like Thanalan - and not because Thanalan is the home of Amaljaa and their deity though it must help Ifrit has already been summoned in the region, Garuda in Gridania (wind/thunder aspected aether region) and so on, exception made for Bahamut trance, since for this one a SMN has to attune to Bahamut's specific aether and the stronger remnant of this aether is in Carteneau's field). But whether the SMN has his soul crystal or not (since it's basically a shortcut to learn skills faster or to impregnate your own fighting memories into the crystal), the SMN must be able to recall the egi with his/her own aether indeed.

    Concerning the BLM/WHM, it's true the elementals regulate conjury and white magic (only authorized to padjals and the WoL or some other exception given your own rp story) but I still don't have any clue to why they're able to return aether to the land after casting spell... I can imagine why you deplete the land of its aether in the case of the BLM, since logically speaking, you take surrounding aether to form a spell or enhance your own aether and cast/launch a spell, but it would basically be just moving aether like creating underdense regions of aether (source of the casting) and overdense regions of aether (target of the spell)... if anyone has a thought to share about this I'm all ears
    Thank you kindly for your input & that brightened my curiosity even further,

    What I am exceptionally disturbed its that these magi/mages are basically “vampire like” leeching aether from the material world (possibly living organisms as well) and just cause a huge drought to almost non-living around.

    Hence why i love Paladin, and rather tap into my own aether at some degree to not over exhaust or deplete my own aether but control it ((on an RP stance within ffxiv’s lore)).
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    Hazuki Aze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Thank you kindly for your input & that brightened my curiosity even further,

    What I am exceptionally disturbed its that these magi/mages are basically “vampire like” leeching aether from the material world (possibly living organisms as well) and just cause a huge drought to almost non-living around.

    Hence why i love Paladin, and rather tap into my own aether at some degree to not over exhaust or deplete my own aether but control it ((on an RP stance within ffxiv’s lore)).
    Yes ! They are kind-of, but in any fantasy world, magic has to emerge from an initial component, basically mana/aether in every fantasy world, no matter where it originates from (center of the planet, stard etc, aether/mana is kind of always a magic current circulating throughout the world, in the ground, in the water, in the air, almost every living organism possesses aether as well), so it's quite normal that at some point some disciplines of magic are seen as vampire-like since when you want more sheer force with magic (even when using your own aether you're limited by your inner aether reservoir), you need a bigger reservoir, and what is better than the environment itself as a reservoir?

    However, do remember, concerning the War of the Magi, we're basically talking of a WAR (and not warrior haha), with hundreds and thousands of mages confronting themselfs on both sides (mhach vs amdapor), using aether to cast spells second after seconds, day after day, and a war that may have lasted for weeks, months... so the depletion of aether was massive and paradoxally in a short amount of time. Except during the 7th Calamity, the world has never seen such huge Magic War since the 6th Calamity, so I doubt even one or two epic fights with magic in your rp-story would cause much damage unless you resort to use some large scale spell (like Louisoix during the 7th Calamity using a spell to seal Bahamut that depleted the entire Carteneau region but needed to use prayers to the Twelve to cast it nonetheless - huge spell - long time incantation).
    Besides, unless you use some sort of strategy, a mage using surrounding aether to cast spell will always be far more powerful than someone using his own aether to cast magic, you'll always end up shortening your life at some point for a scenaristic climax or plot armor thing x)
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    Just forgot to mention that besides mages, ninja also uses surrounding aether in the form of mudra cast to perform their ninjutsu, they connect aether of different height so to say to perform magic-like skills. Precisely, the Ninja uses hand gestures to channel aether from the air and the ground through his/her own body and shape it into any physical form he wants or form defined by already established jutsus - so it would not be farfetched to invent new jutsus from a rp viewpoint. On the other side, it does not necessarily means the ninja uses his/her own aether to cast jutsus nor does he only deplete the surroundings of its aether. The way I understand it the aether may return to the environment after casting... but again if anyone has a thought to share about the special case of the Ninja I'm all ears as well ^^
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