About damage essences in Delubrum/Dalriada

[KhayleZerker]

What's the sentiment around always having damage essences ready for pug parties in Delubrum Reginae/Dalriada?

I've been called lazy, dumb, and someone said I had "you don't pay my sub" energy because I don't want to sink Gil or Bozjan clusters into buying fragments. I've almost finished my first relic and I've simply used up the few damage increase essences I had! Swapped jobs to healer/tank when my main, Ninja, didn't have any damage essences left. I then depleted them all for healers/tanks too. I did buy around 35 fragments with 150k Gil to get the skirmisher essence, and I got a whopping 0. The bozjan clusters are being saved up for the expensive mount.

Someone in /shout chat in Dalriada complained that the run was slow because of "selfish people" who didn't use essences. They then suggested to go and cluster farm for a few hours so you can buy fragments, because "you have no excuse not to be using damage essences".

My question is, since when did other people become entitled to my time? When I've ran Castrum 5 times, Delubrum 15 and Dalriada 2, meanwhile using essences whenever I possibly can, in all these raids + while farming fates/CE's in Bozja/Zadnor, it might not be so weird that I don't have them available 24/7? I don't feel like sinking my gil into the fragment roulette or use bozjan clusters, because I want that mount. I'm not gonna go out of my way to grind clusters for hours just to make your run 1 minute faster. If I have the damage essences then of course I'll use them! Like probably everyone else, I also want the run to go as fast as possible. But being hostile to others because they don't have a damage essence in a PUG is unreasonable to me. Go join a fixed party in party finder then! Everyone having a damage essence 24/7 100% of the time is just not realistic!

Thoughts?

[Canadane]

My question is, since when did other people become entitled to my time?

From their perspective, it's 'why are you entitled to theirs?'
They've put in whatever farm was needed for them to get essences. Sorry your RNG was poor in your recent purchase, but at the end of the day, again from their perspective, is that you and others not using essences and lost actions are simply slowing down the raid.

[Aurida]

What's the sentiment around always having damage essences ready for pug parties in Delubrum Reginae/Dalriada?

You should always do it, it shaves a significant amount of time off any fight and not bringing damage-boosting or at least supportive actions is blatantly disrespectful to everyone who is. There's a lot of sentiment of 'entitled to your time' thrown around in these topics, but it's only because of the people who do bring optimal setups- or, indeed, setups at all- that every CE doesn't take eight or more minutes and multiple loops of the boss pattern

Everyone having a damage essence 24/7 100% of the time is just not realistic!

aetherweaver for healers is literally an 80% damage increase and martialist for tanks is 60%, both of which are trivially farmed off of completely non-threatening mobs in bozja's first zone via fragments of skill, and skirmisher or ordained are obtained similarly in the second zone via awakening, though the recent decrease in cost to the fragments for pure essences means you can obtain enough for multiple runs of Delubrum simply by killing magitek located around the site of literally every single skirmish in zadnor while also obtaining high-value lost actions like Rend Armor and Dervish

Not only is it 'realistic' but I also strongly believe that the first raidwide off of the first boss in Delubrum should automatically kill you if you don't have an essence up

[KhayleZerker]

I use lost actions all the time, but I'm simply out of options because 1) I have 2m Gil, I'm not depleting it on fragments. 2) the bozjan clusters are for the mount, I would be happy to spend them on fragments after. 3) Even If I were to grind clusters for hours or sink my Gil into the MB, there's no guarantee how many dps essences I'll get. Spending several hours cluster farming to make the time I spend online in dungeons go faster, is in itself counter-intuitive. It only benefits everyone else but you. If that's selfish to say, then yeah I'm selfish I guess. That's why I run the dungeons on whatever job has a damage essence available. I'll just stop doing the raids when I'm empty, then.

[lezard21]

If you don't want people to tell you you come off as "you don't pay my sub" person then use essences. Simple solution, I don't see the issue here. Next question!

[Theodric]

It's mostly a matter of etiquette. In group content, everybody is working towards the same goal - to walk away with a victory when all is said and done. Essences aren't technically mandatory but if the majority of players in a group are using the appropriate essences then the difference in the speed of a clear is akin to the contrast between night and day.

Given that a lot of people are farming the same raid over and over, then anything that makes the experience smoother and faster is very likely to be seen as very favourable.

[Aurida]

If everyone spends 10 minutes farming for a halfway decent setup then it takes 20 minutes off the run time of the instance. You ain't need to bring top shelf stuff to every run, but even someone running aetherweaver white mage with seraph strike/bravery is contributing more to the fight than an innumerable amount of people that bring Nothing and think it's okay to coast off of the efforts of people who do

[Maltothoris]

The damage actions do so much for just making fights go by faster. Let's say you're a healer and you get use the aetherweaver essence, that's already 80 percent more damage. Combine it with any lost actions as well, like let's say Chainspell and Seraph Strike, chain spell increases damage by 45 percent outside of ordained and seraph increases damage by 60 percent for 15 seconds, let's do some napkin math (100x1.8x1.45x1.6) that is about 4 times the damage that you would normally do in those 15 seconds than without. This isn't even counting the attack buff you get from mettle. With all this good stuff things like Misery could hit close to one million without echo.

[KhayleZerker]

10 minutes cluster farming might yield me 5 fragments, and the skirmish essence is a 1/7 draw from the fragment. This is literally beneficiary to everyone else except me. Do you get my point?

[Aurida]

Right just like how you're deriving benefit from everyone else that did the same farm?