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    I'd rather they give us an alternate way of augmenting the current tomestone weapons and completely abandon the current 24 man series. They were a poorly designed, poorly implemented experiment that failed in every front. Were it not for the amount of time and resources it would take, I'd even go as far as suggesting to completely remove it and design a new 24 man raid series from scratch.

    But alas, guess it will remain as a lesson on why not to pander to a small demographic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    I'd rather they give us an alternate way of augmenting the current tomestone weapons and completely abandon the current 24 man series. They were a poorly designed, poorly implemented experiment that failed in every front. Were it not for the amount of time and resources it would take, I'd even go as far as suggesting to completely remove it and design a new 24 man raid series from scratch.

    But alas, guess it will remain as a lesson on why not to pander to a small demographic.
    Despite what anyone thinks of the current raids, this is how they have handled the tomestone gear upgrades in the past. This is nothing new. It worked in the past, and it works just fine now. There's no pandering involved. It's standard procedure. The content of the raids themselves have nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Despite what anyone thinks of the current raids, this is how they have handled the tomestone gear upgrades in the past. This is nothing new. It worked in the past, and it works just fine now. There's no pandering involved. It's standard procedure. The content of the raids themselves have nothing to do with it.
    I was not saying augmenting gear through raids is pandering. I was saying the current raids are the result of pandering to a small crowd, and as a result they feel disconnected and poorly implemented, and I'd rather not be forced to run them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    I was not saying augmenting gear through raids is pandering. I was saying the current raids are the result of pandering to a small crowd, and as a result they feel disconnected and poorly implemented, and I'd rather not be forced to run them again.
    Outside of the story quests, what makes them feel any more poorly designed than previous raids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    Outside of the story quests, what makes them feel any more poorly designed than previous raids?
    Difficultywise they are a huge step backwards, even easier than ARR raids on patch; particularly the last raid in which every boss except the last one only have 2 mechanics that they keep spamming over and over with a very slight variation; the areas get progressively more boring and simple; the story is bad and out of place.

    The only positive thing they have is the last boss music rearrangement from each raid, the ones that are straight out from Nier are terrible and ear ripping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    600k an absolute truckload? It's about as much as single CE in Zadnor gives, hardly a truckload. Dalriada gives 3mil and takes much less time.
    Mettle is worthless. Proof of Mettle is only useful for DRS and it arrived 3 months too late since the people that wanted to clear DRS have already done so without Proof of Mettle. Thus no reason why to run Dalriada since it offers no good reward and now it's a lot more time efficient to run DR for simultaneously 2 relic steps at once.
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    Last edited by lezard21; 06-23-2021 at 07:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Mettle is worthless. Proof of Mettle is only useful for DRS and it arrived 3 months too late since the people that wanted to clear DRS have already done so without Proof of Mettle. Thus no reason why to run Dalriada since it offers no good reward and now it's a lot more time efficient to run DR for simultaneously 2 relic steps at once.
    The damage boost helps in each Bozja zone/instance. Hardly worthless. If it gets the echo buff on top of this at Endwalker's launch then players will probably be ridiculously overpowered, making the grinds there easier. You are also not considering that not everyone has both quests running at the same time, making Dalriada a perfectly viable option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Mettle is worthless. Proof of Mettle is only useful for DRS and it arrived 3 months too late since the people that wanted to clear DRS have already done so without Proof of Mettle. Thus no reason why to run Dalriada since it offers no good reward and now it's a lot more time efficient to run DR for simultaneously 2 relic steps at once.
    Saying mettle is worthless is like saying essences and lost actions are worthless. Nowadays if you go into DR/Dilra/CL without Honors while being rank 25, you're almost asking for a carry.
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