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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    This whole thread is a pretty good reminder of why the mentor system needs a massive rework. Take the crowns away and take away the reward. This way the only people that are mentors are people that actually want to help new players. Or do a strike system, mentors lose there status as mentor is the leave so many duties, and aren't able to get it back for like 6 months or something.

    There is nothing wrong with using DF to do an EX
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with using DF to do an EX
    So you normally do all your EXes in DF?
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    So you normally do all your EXes in DF?
    Exactly. It's hypocrisy. Doing a new trial in PF with a phase 1 learning party, an add phase learning party, a last phase learning party and finally a clear party is totally normal. People practice the part they need practice with and often need several pug groups to succeed. You see this each time another unreal trial is released. Yet mentors are expected to carry 7 newbies to a clear in 1 hour.

    It's not like we don't try to teach but often it feels like the first timers are taking the p*ss. My usual Ultima trial requires me to repeat "intercept/touch the orbs before they meet or we wipe" at least 5 times until someone gets bored of wiping and asks "what are we doing wrong". Like... this is not a mentor problem. Players who did not bother to read or watch a guide, who did not bother to open the text guide I linked, unsurprisingly also do not bother to read what is in the chat. I'm willing to literally hold their hand and explain each of the 9 phases in Thordan ex but we're not going to clear it if the same 6 people get killed by charging knights every. frigging. time.
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