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    Undercutting bots are getting out of control!

    Edited:

    11retainer got baited by insane low price and undercut each other 24/7 at a perfectly 10min interval is not evidence to you guys.
    fine.

    I used to think ffxiv has a great community,
    but then now I realize this community will try everything they could to passively protect these bots, for some reason.

    I played 12hours yesterday and was selling 60 pieces of gears, manually updating my price every hour,
    yet nothing sells, because of these undercut bots, because there is 10+ bot undercutting me automatically

    but all of you would just keep passively defending them by saving "there is no proof" "just give up"
    it is disgusting.
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    Last edited by BunnyGrill; 06-18-2021 at 04:46 AM.

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    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Market-botting

    Suggest you keep it in this thread.

    Also namecalling is against ToS so I suggest you remove those links.

    Also your so called evidence is proving nothing. Some people just undercut to get you to lower it even more to buy it off you and flip it.
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    Harassing bots is against ToS, sorry.

    Enjoy. F
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    Its a free market and if they want to they are free to undercut to even lower than vendor price, just because they keep a close eye on their auctions is no proof that they are bots.
    In my opinion you undercutting by the amounts you have is way more despicable than someone trying to get their wares to the front of the line.
    If you undercut me like that i would make it my mission to see that nothing you post would ever sell.

    Also showing their names is against the ToS, and trying to get your competition banned with no evidence lacks honor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Market-botting

    Suggest you keep it in this thread.

    Also namecalling is against ToS so I suggest you remove those links.

    Also your so called evidence is proving nothing. Some people just undercut to get you to lower it even more to buy it off you and flip it.
    If undercutting perfectly every 10mins and fall for getting undercut by ridiculous price is not evidence, I don't know what is.
    Especially these bots are still undercutting each other every 10mins for the past 10hours, its ongoing.
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    Every 10 minutes? That's literally nothing. Some people keep refreshing their listings.
    You're just speculating, that's no proof.
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    I don't undercut people like that normally,

    only after I suspected them because I played 12hours yesterday,
    and undercut by 1gil every 1hour and was selling 40 exarchic gear,
    still I sold nothing, then I realize something is off and started testing them.

    now I am just seeing a bunch of bots undercutting each other below 50k
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    Move on to new market or let them sit, it will sell eventually. It's this period of the expansion where everyone is literally trying to make gil and nothing really sells anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Move on to new market or let them sit, it will sell eventually. It's this period of the expansion where everyone is literally trying to make gil and nothing really sells anymore.
    I moved already, multiple times, from different exarchic gears to aesthetic gears,
    it doesn't work because of these bots.
    Seeing bots undercutting me every mins is demotivating (these bots undercut every 10mins, but there is 10 different bots from 3 different person)

    I literally played 12hours last night and manually updated my gear every hours, yet nothing sells
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyGrill View Post
    but all of you would just keep passively defending them by saving "there is no proof" "just give up"
    it is disgusting.
    Classy. Circumstantial evidence don't mean they're botting my dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyGrill View Post
    I moved already, multiple times, from different exarchic gears to aesthetic gears,
    it doesn't work because of these bots.
    Seeing bots undercutting me every mins is demotivating (these bots undercut every 10mins, but there is 10 different bots from 3 different person)

    I literally played 12hours last night and manually updated my gear every hours, yet nothing sells
    That's probably the worst items to craft this time around cause everyone and their mom has crafters leveled up. This is the downside of making crafting so accessible.
    You need to find a market that has little compition and spread your market, don't sell on 1 specific market (i.e exarchic and aeshetic). You're selling yourself short.

    The points and "proof" you've provided don't convince me they're bots just same as you, anoyed someone is petty undercutting them and has little to nothing to lose on undercut you until you give up.
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