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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    We may know there are good Garleans out there, but the NPCs we meet won't and it makes 0 sense in context. I don't think they would add any context either. I highly doubt they'd take the time and care to add any special dialogue in the MSQ based on your race choice that's different than what presently exists. It would be jarring to be playing a Garlean while every NPC ignores your existence and goes on at length about how they brutalized their nations and you meet people who only exist because of violent interactions between pureblood Garleans and the locals. Also jarring would be walking around in the daylight without getting arrested or any character treating you with suspicion at all or Garlean soldiers attacking you on sight despite your 3rd eye. Yes the other new races have had some lore bending or handwaving but nothing to this magnitude.

    Also, none of the examples you listed have a permanent physical trait that differentiates them from baseline humans. Garleans are instantly recognizable.

    In the end, the biggest difference between male viera and Garleans is that there was a lot of vocal want for viera and a thread that has nearly 2k likes. People aren't clamoring to play Garleans except for you and the 2-3 others posting over and over. I've yet to see a compelling argument for why playable Garleans deserve to exist. At least male viera are making up for the missing gender of an existing race.
    You know what else would be jarring? Playing a duskwight elezen in gridania and being able to meet with the seedseer and being able to become a conjurer despite the blatant racism and lack of freedom/equality they have. Yet...it’s still possible. It doesn’t make any sense, but that’s the way it is.Same with Hrothgar in Uldah. A beast-like race not even questioned by the city despite being prejudice against all beast tribes. It's just there with no explanation or questions asked. None of the main cast are ever in vocal opposition of working with a Garlean. Also, in regards to your comment on people aren’t clamoring for them. Wow...i wonder why. It’s almost like every single time someone mentions they would like to play as one or that they enjoy the Garlean story, they're instantly met with criticism and shot down, or called horrible names because of who they like in a fantasy game full of pixels. Again, you seem to be missing the point and it’s just completely flying over your head. Lore isn’t a problem. It really isn’t. Look at Male Viera for that. You can say it’s not the same or whatever you want but it is. When the main dev himself says they only use the lore excuse as a temporary thing, i’m inclined to believe him over random people on the forums who know next to nothing about game lore.I just find it really funny how you guys were arguing lore problems with it, yet after a few others and i refuted those claims, you’ve now resorted to saying simply it’s a matter of want. Where was the demand for Hrothgar before Yoshi p brought it up? Exactly. Crying about immersion when again, we have things like chicken suits, pig suits, baseball caps, sneakers, 1980’s american style glams. Give me a break.
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