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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Yoshida has stated that Garleans aren't playable because of the conflicts it would set up in the story. Imagine going into Yanxia as a Garlean during Stormblood and trying to beat back the empire to liberate the region how odd that will make a lot of the story. Similar conflicts would rise with the ARR story, and even some of the minor notes like how Lucia hides that she's Garlean while in Ishgard, yet you as an unknown ward of House Fortemps can wander around unashamedly Garlean?

    This is all in addition to the issues brought up where the Garleans can't manipulate aether. This is a plot point brought up a few times. But the problem really would become that most if not every job in the game uses aether to charge up their attacks. So you'd be limited to like maybe one job? And that wouldn't make for a fun game experience for the player if they're limited on what they can do because of their race.
    Again, none of this makes much sense in the form of an argument because like, You can play as an Au Ra in ishgard during the story. Which, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense at all but yknow...lore bend. You can play as a duskwight and have your starter city be gridania. Dialogue doesn’t make a lot of sense but yknow....lore bend. The aether thing has already been explained by their people that it is still possible for some to do so. Yoshida gave the lore argument for Male Viera back in ShB yet, look what happened. I understand if y’all say stuff like oh they can’t right now because of the engine. But please, stop trying to use the lore as an excuse. They bend the lore all the time to fit their needs, this wouldn’t be any different. It’s just weird to keep using it as an excuse when there’s multiple instances of things not making sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Again, none of this makes much sense in the form of an argument because like, You can play as an Au Ra in ishgard during the story. Which, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense at all but yknow...lore bend. You can play as a duskwight and have your starter city be gridania. Dialogue doesn’t make a lot of sense but yknow....lore bend. The aether thing has already been explained by their people that it is still possible for some to do so. Yoshida gave the lore argument for Male Viera back in ShB yet, look what happened. I understand if y’all say stuff like oh they can’t right now because of the engine. But please, stop trying to use the lore as an excuse. They bend the lore all the time to fit their needs, this wouldn’t be any different. It’s just weird to keep using it as an excuse when there’s multiple instances of things not making sense.
    They bend the lore a bit if it is required to meet fan demand, they don't just break it and stamp on the pieces for the sake of half a dozen people.

    Dialogue being a bit weird for half a dozen intro quests in Gridania is hardly comparable to hundreds of Garleans freely running about using magic they shouldn't be able to use in the cities they're currently at war with.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 06-17-2021 at 05:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Again, none of this makes much sense in the form of an argument because like, You can play as an Au Ra in ishgard during the story. Which, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense at all but yknow...lore bend. You can play as a duskwight and have your starter city be gridania. Dialogue doesn’t make a lot of sense but yknow....lore bend. The aether thing has already been explained by their people that it is still possible for some to do so. Yoshida gave the lore argument for Male Viera back in ShB yet, look what happened. I understand if y’all say stuff like oh they can’t right now because of the engine. But please, stop trying to use the lore as an excuse. They bend the lore all the time to fit their needs, this wouldn’t be any different. It’s just weird to keep using it as an excuse when there’s multiple instances of things not making sense.
    How does au ra not make sense in Ishgard when the DRK quest giver is an au ra in Ishgard? Au ra are not dragons nor are they related to dragons. The DRK guy said his family were killed by the misunderstanding, but considering he's sitting in the bar there, I think the Ishgardians got over it.
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