Apartments need Rent

[Imora]

Greenhouse as an outdoor addon could be cool. In EQ2 i had my "attic" laid out with waterfalls and a giant garden. The skylights reminded me of a greenhouse so I went with it.

A balcony could be nice too. My retainer keeps bringing me back furniture too that I can't use. Mansion walls and crap.

I hope Ishgard gets an apartment building. I'd move in an instant.

[Themarvin]

put rent on housing and FC houses, being FC house of course would be more, but easier to pay if more about it.

[Almagnus1]

put rent on housing and FC houses, being FC house of course would be more, but easier to pay if more about it.

As much as people would hate it, having a rent mechanic would definitely help drain money from the economy, which this game needs badly.

[Nepentha]

As much as people would hate it, having a rent mechanic would definitely help drain money from the economy, which this game needs badly.

10k is pocket change. There's millions, no billions, of gil out there being amassed because we don't have any proper gil sinks atm. I'll agree with you that there needs to be something to sink it all into. But charging rent for apartments isn't one of them.

[Almagnus1]

10k is pocket change. There's millions, no billions, of gil out there being amassed because we don't have any proper gil sinks atm. I'll agree with you that there needs to be something to sink it all into. But charging rent for apartments isn't one of them.

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

[Nepentha]

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

I'm not sure why you've fixated on this, but it's just not feasible and not something SE is likely to do. Apartments are instanced housing meant to placate people who cannot get housing, or access to FC rooms. They're not meant to be demolished and are quite plentiful even on high population servers. Charging rent for housing, that would probably be more reasonable but still, not something SE is likely to do.

[MicahZerrshia]

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

Correction, it would contribute to the already out of hand rmt. We already have no gil sinks and rmt are out of control. Give us something that we need to pay for every week, that is as highly sought after as housing, which should be available to all who want it, then you are just making two situations worse for the player population.

Do we need gil sinks? I mean, sure I guess. But they should come in other forms. Maybe make crafting items purchasable with gil instead of tomes or scrips. They add lots of new things but put them behind a token currency instead of gil. They even removed gil from the beast tribe quest items and put them behind their own tribal tokens. Remember 200k for a mount? Yeah they had a way to remove gil and they changed it to a token. If they wanted an actual gil sink they could have it quite easily in other venues.

Like I stated earlier, housing in ffxiv is its own piece of content and locking that behind a paywall that is not just a general sub and a base purchase amount is just a bad idea and does nothing to solve the housing crisis in the long run. You are just needlessly punishing players.

[ForteNightshade]

As much as people would hate it, having a rent mechanic would definitely help drain money from the economy, which this game needs badly.

I presently have 300M on my main character. For reference sake, I'll up your rent requirement to 100k per week and we'll assume I never earn another cent. Even with those parameters, it would take over 62 years before I ran out of gil.

Needless to say, throwing a glass of water into the ocean would have more of an impact than your proposal.

[Almagnus1]

I presently have 300M on my main character. For reference sake, I'll up your rent requirement to 100k per week and we'll assume I never earn another cent. Even with those parameters, it would take over 62 years before I ran out of gil.

Needless to say, throwing a glass of water into the ocean would have more of an impact than your proposal.

Ok, now how much gil does the average apartment dweller have? What about the average player?

If you're in the top 5% (or top 1%) of gil holders.... you're kinda the exception and stuff shouldn't be balanced around you.

And draining gil from the economy isn't about making one huge dent into a pocket book, if done correctly you bleed gil on almost everything and in an amount that makes sense (for example, repair costs should be much more expensive, as should teleport costs).

[ForteNightshade]

Ok, now how much gil does the average apartment dweller have? What about the average player?

If you're in the top 5% (or top 1%) of gil holders.... you're kinda the exception and stuff shouldn't be balanced around you.

And draining gil from the economy isn't about making one huge dent into a pocket book, if done correctly you bleed gil on almost everything and in an amount that makes sense (for example, repair costs should be much more expensive, as should teleport costs).

Even someone with just a 10% of my gil count would take years to run out.

Regardless, this whole rent concept would make Apartments less appealing. They're only saving grace is not requiring a constant subscription. It's also a limitless system as the dev team says they can generate more as needed. Considering they've never once had to add additional apartment, it really goes to highlight how little people think of them. Slapping a rent price on Apartments will kill them off entirely.