Apartments need Rent

[Jojoya]

AFAIK, SE never actually promised that a player would be able to keep their apartment for forever.

Game developers never make promises unless they're positive it is something they're ready to implement. At the same time, they don't randomly change what's already implemented without good reason.

When apartments were added back in Heavensward, SE told us they would not be subject to demolition because it would be relatively easy for them to add more wings to apartment buildings (compared to what they have to do to add entire new wards) if there was a need for more apartments on worlds.

Could they change their mind 5 years later? Certainly, if they had good reason. Right now, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to change their mind about apartments when it comes to lack of demolition.

Keep in mind how players react. What do you think the realistic outcome would be if your suggestions were implemented? Would the game be in a better place than it is now? Would players be happier than they are now?

[Almagnus1]

When apartments were added back in Heavensward, SE told us they would not be subject to demolition because it would be relatively easy for them to add more wings to apartment buildings (compared to what they have to do to add entire new wards) if there was a need for more apartments on worlds.

Do you happen to have the link for that? I was looking into when it was implemented the other night and it looked like around 3.4, but (as that's a long time) I don't really recall much of what was going on on the dev side prior to the patch release >.>

I would be interested to know what was said, just don't really know where would be the correct channel for that.

Keep in mind how players react. What do you think the realistic outcome would be if your suggestions were implemented? Would the game be in a better place than it is now? Would players be happier than they are now?

Same as any change to any game system, you'd get every reaction in the book for like a week, things'd calm down and life would go on.

[Jojoya]

Same as any change to any game system, you'd get every reaction in the book for like a week, things'd calm down and life would go on.

And players would stop buying apartments because the main appeal of an apartment - lack of demolition - would no longer exist while they suddenly have a new major disadvantage - rent - that houses lack. They'll just keep saving up that gil for the day they can finally get a house instead.

You're honestly not thinking this through all the way.

[Styrmwyda]

I like Apartments because you don't have to worry about being evicted, unlike Houses. Apartments are the one thing we casual players can get in terms of housing, don't you DARE to justify taking them away.

Seriously, if for some ungodly reason SE accepts and implements your idea and my Apartment room is gone because I took a break from the game to avoid burn out I am blaming YOU.

[Almagnus1]

And players would stop buying apartments because the main appeal of an apartment - lack of demolition - would no longer exist while they suddenly have a new major disadvantage - rent - that houses lack. They'll just keep saving up that gil for the day they can finally get a house instead.

You're honestly not thinking this through all the way.

And if everything had rent?

Main thing FFXIV needs is instanced housing, and if apartments upgrades + Island Sanctuary (or whatever's coming in EW) (SE did not think that name through and how we'd shorten it) can bring apartments up to being a viable alternative to housing.... that would be a way forward. Main concern with that, however, is that there are a finite amount of apartments and while it will take longer to max them out than what we have with housing currently.... that day will eventually happen and we're going to be in the position with apartments that we are with housing.

I like Apartments because you don't have to worry about being evicted, unlike Houses. Apartments are the one thing we casual players can get in terms of housing, don't you DARE to justify taking them away.

Seriously, if for some ungodly reason SE accepts and implements your idea and my Apartment room is gone because I took a break from the game to avoid burn out I am blaming YOU.

**hands pitchfork and torch**

Better for you to be prepared because you're just that lovely type of person...

[Styrmwyda]

**hands pitchfork and torch**

Better for you to be prepared because you're just that lovely type of person...

When did I say anything about attacking you? I just don't want to lose the one type of housing I can get as a casual player. And instead of telling me your case, you get defensive, why?

[Jojoya]

And if everything had rent?

Players not interested in paying rent would let their houses demo to reclaim what gil they can.

Players willing to pay rent would skip over apartments and go straight to houses because there would now be plenty available.

Players who had been on break just to come back to find their apartments demolished would be pissed beyond belief at all the seasonal event items they had stored and now lost, and would cancel their subscriptions.

Your idea of making things more attractive does not work. You don't make things more attractive by taking away the perks that were used to make them attractive in the first place.

[Besame]

*popcorn" watches Almagnus bait everyone and chuckles. This guy is init2winit for trolling you all. I put it on /ignore.

[Almagnus1]

*popcorn" watches Almagnus bait everyone and chuckles. This guy is init2winit for trolling you all. I put it on /ignore.

Ok, now run through the scenario where I'm actually not trolling.... just being indecisive and changing positions periodically as the thread unfolds.

[ItMe]

Ok, now run through the scenario where I'm actually not trolling.... just being indecisive and changing positions periodically as the thread unfolds.

And doing a fair bit of ignoring people.
I've gone back through this thread and see you've been blanking people who have asked how adding rent is supposed to make apartments more appealing, and I think MilkieTea is still waiting for an apology.