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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    We don't need your support, but we certainly also don't need your opposition.
    Too bad. Even people who disagree have just as much of a right to partake in a discussion, there's no echo chambers here.

    Also, for the record, I don't necessarily oppose a grace period on it's own.. I mean I think it's good the Moogle Tomestone events normally have them. In this case however ample warning was given in all the reasonable ways SE would expect players to keep informed. At some point it ceases to be a case of 'SE is at fault'. And they also made it ample clear this wasn't a normal Tomestone event and thus didn't work like a normal one.
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    Again, there is literally 0 reason for you - as another player - to oppose people being allowed to spend their hard-earned tomestones. It affects you in no way whatsoever. You are not adding anything to the conversation and are simply being demeaning and condescending ("oh, I guess you can't read, derp derp derp"). As I've said a couple of times now, yes, I missed the disclaimer - I leave my FFXIV on in the background at all times and so I basically only log out / in a couple of times a month (usually during patches); I guess I missed the message when it first went out. I am not saying it is SE's "fault" as you claim, but rather pointing out that it was an easy mistake for people to make given that SE has allowed tomestones to be used after an event for every tomestone event in recent history and SE is known for generally doing things consistently.

    I'm simply saying it would be nice if, since it wouldn't really harm anyone and would only benefit those of us who missed the message, SE would provide a post-event window to spend the tomes. It's not up to me or you - it's up to SE. I have an issue with OP's demanding way of going about asking for it, but nobody in here can reasonably oppose other players asking to be able to spend the tomestones that they already earned. (They can do it, obviously, but it's a silly position to take and just shows how sad their world must be if they derive pleasure out of trying to prevent others from having nice things, especially when those players earned it and just missed the memo about when they needed to spend it by.)
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    I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

    I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

    At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.
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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

    I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

    At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.
    That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.
    The only thing I didn't already have from this event was the Scree ring, which I bought on like the first day... So I was basically in the same position as Adeacia except I didn't happen to spend my tomes before the end date. Again, I'm not too torn about it since I already have millions of MGP and everything I could want, but that doesn't change the fact that it was just like "wait wut" at the end. I'm just more baffled by you and the folks in here who are pushing back against a grace period while claiming that you're not lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    I'm just more baffled by you and the folks in here who are pushing back against a grace period while claiming that you're not lol.
    No one's pushing against grace period. People are just criticizing the ones who insist on blaming SE for their own oversight.
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    The amount of people refusing to take personal responsibility for their own not reading is astounding...

    I missed out too. I thought the event ended on a Tuesday instead of a Monday because what even is time lol. My bad. Threw out my tomes and moved on.

    SE gave plenty and ample avenues of information for you to realize, outside of the already obvious indications, that this was an irregular Irregular Tomestones event. The assumption that it was like the previous events is on you. It literally would have been as easy as, "huh, I wonder if this is the same as the last time." *reads the login message in chat log* *clicks the link*

    Even if it WAS the same as last time, you would have spent like 2 minutes confirming that yep, same as last time. Since it wasn't, you would have spent 2 minutes and realized "oh, wow, it's different this time. Better spend my tomes."

    It's not brown-nosing SE for saying it's not their fault because it literally isn't their fault. They provided the information; you chose not to read it. That's on you. If you took an argument like this to court the judge would laugh you out of house and home.
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    Just to offer some perspective from the Japanese point of view, regarding things like a grace period.

    I personally don’t care either way about a grace period, but SE chose not to… why?

    In Japan there are often set boundaries when it comes to things like bending rules and it is often frowned upon to make exceptions because if you make an exception this time, people will expect an exception next time.

    It’s viewed very much as a “if you give a mouse a cookie…” situation (google it, it’s a kids book).

    To the point, they haven’t had grace periods for events like Xmas or Halloween, so for this to be an exception would give players reason to complain when (for example) the FF15 event returns and doesn’t offer a grace period. This is much more difficult to explain to the player base than “sorry, our events end when they end”.



    Personally? I think they should just have a holiday vendor that has exchange for every old/expired “currency” into something like Grand Company Seals or Tomestones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Just to offer some perspective from the Japanese point of view, regarding things like a grace period.

    I personally don’t care either way about a grace period, but SE chose not to… why?

    In Japan there are often set boundaries when it comes to things like bending rules and it is often frowned upon to make exceptions because if you make an exception this time, people will expect an exception next time.

    It’s viewed very much as a “if you give a mouse a cookie…” situation (google it, it’s a kids book).

    To the point, they haven’t had grace periods for events like Xmas or Halloween, so for this to be an exception would give players reason to complain when (for example) the FF15 event returns and doesn’t offer a grace period. This is much more difficult to explain to the player base than “sorry, our events end when they end”.



    Personally? I think they should just have a holiday vendor that has exchange for every old/expired “currency” into something like Grand Company Seals or Tomestones.
    I prefer, "If You Give a Moose a Muffin."
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    I honestly don't know why SE chose to call the items for this event "irregular tomestones" when they function differently from every other "irregular tomestone" in recent history (e.g., mythology, soldiery, law, esoterics, etc.). I think if they'd used any other item (e.g., like the Pumpkin Cookies, Heavensturn Tickets, etc.) that was specific to this event but was not called an "irregular tomestone," the vast majority of people would've known that it functioned differently even if they missed the disclaimer. It just seems strange that SE didn't implement the typical seasonal vendor like usually they do with these sort of events but instead chose to use the Itinerant Moogle, which has always allowed post-event turn-ins. Say what you will, but this is an issue of poor planning/design for this event. They switched things up and, although they had disclaimers, this is never how they've done it in the past. If for some reason you can't understand why someone would assume that a game mechanic would continue to operate as it always has, then I don't know what to say.
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