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    IridescentHope's Avatar
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    Shi Lycoris
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    The Actual Solution to the Mentor Roulette problem

    Step one: Remove extreme trials from mentor roulette. Frankly, remove Cas and Prae as well. Turn the mentor roulette into mentorship of general duties and sure, why not, remove the ability to leave duty in progress or something because you queued as mentor, you need to help the people there complete the duty.

    Step two: Create a new roulette that is only extreme trials. Make this like Mentor Roulette 2.0. And sure, make it a requirement you have to've completed everything synced or whatever. Sure, why not, I don't care.

    Step three: Make a really awesome mount as a reward for doing x number of successful extreme trials, like a 5-seater pegasus carriage please Squeenix feed my horse obsession?

    Step four: profit.

    ... okay but as much as this is a joke, it's not. The biggest gripe about mentor roulette are mentors who bail on expert trials (from what I understand) but there's absolutely no real incentive for mentors to stay, especially in the harder trials. So give them an incentive. Separate the extremes into another roulette, give it a sick reward, and make it so mentors will want to drag sprouts kicking and screaming through the extreme trials to get it.

    Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Summoner Lv 90
    ironically i do wish the game had the astrope equivalent of the black pegasus. Could you imagine a black red and silver? astrope, Would be 10/10
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    My god I would be in love with that mount. And if they added unique music to it-? No, wait, that's being unreasonable. But honestly!!! Some dope ass mount like that!! People will do the grind for it. I know I would do the grind for it.
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    Jenna Starsong
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    1 - Remove EXs. They were never designed to be done with DF randoms in the first place. Sure you can straight up overpower the easier ones like Bismarck with those 100 extra ilevels, but Sophia, Shinryu, etc? Never going to happen.

    2 - Make the rewards dynamic based on the content. Titan HM gives trial roulette rewards, Antitower give 50/60/70 roulette rewards, etc. Right now the rewards are insultingly low.

    3 - ???
    4 - Profit
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    Leon Reddas
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    1 - Remove EXs. They were never designed to be done with DF randoms in the first place. Sure you can straight up overpower the easier ones like Bismarck with those 100 extra ilevels, but Sophia, Shinryu, etc? Never going to happen.
    But they were designed for DF though. Just because NA/EU prefer to use PF for Ex Trials, it doesn't mean that's the only way it should be done. It's still common for JP worlds to use DF for such things, and besides there are still many new players who continue to queue up this way (regardless of region), and Mentor Roulette helps them to matchmake with a party faster.

    Edit: The ARR Ex trials are usually quests as well and will appear in a player's journal, i.e. "Use the Duty Finder to confront Garuda in The Howling Eye (Extreme)"; it does not say oh this is really hard content so only use the PF to complete it.
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    Last edited by Kurando; 09-12-2020 at 01:05 AM.

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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    But they were designed for DF though. Just because NA/EU prefer to use PF for Ex Trials, it doesn't mean that's the only way it should be done. It's still common for JP worlds to use DF for such things, and besides there are still many new players who continue to queue up this way (regardless of region), and Mentor Roulette helps them to matchmake with a party faster.

    Edit: The ARR Ex trials are usually quests as well and will appear in a player's journal, i.e. "Use the Duty Finder to confront Garuda in The Howling Eye (Extreme)"; it does not say oh this is really hard content so only use the PF to complete it.
    Actually they weren't. The original 2.x ex primal were not even queueable without a full party when they released. They did not get unlocked in df until a patch or 2 later.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 09-12-2020 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Actually they weren't. The original 2.x ex primal were not even queueable without a full party when they released. They did not get unlocked in df until a patch or 2 later.
    It didn't matter what they used to be but what they are now. Don't be making excuses for mentors that don't want to do duties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    1 - Remove EXs. They were never designed to be done with DF randoms in the first place.
    Honestly pretty silly thing to say considering the JP datacenters have no issues clearing even savage with DF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Honestly pretty silly thing to say considering the JP datacenters have no issues clearing even savage with DF
    Yes well, the JP playerbase tends to be more group oriented, while the NA playerbase tends to be more "wait, you want me to learn my job? Nah" oriented.
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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    The EX content is doable with the hour of time allotted if you mentor the people there. I have done it on many occasions. If you don't want to mentor people why are you in queue for mentor roulette in the first place.
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