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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    ARR is not bad. This is a misconception that keeps being spread.

    Guys, if ARR was really bad, the game would have died with the reboot and we wouldn't be going into the 4th expansion....

    The problem is expectations. Everyone talks the game up so much people think it's the best thing ever at every turn... It takes time to ramp up.

    I've been doing ng+ for a bit in my spare time (work, now back in school, raid, playing new games that released recently). I've not once teleported. It's not even that bad. No flying either. Chocobo porters, and airships, and ferries (which I use for getting between every point. I only use my mount once I've gotten where the porter takes me).

    You just need to stop rushing, change your mindset, and enjoy the experience. The whole game is new to you. The early quests are not filler. They are building your story, the world, and how everything fits together.

    I really enjoyed ARR 8 years ago. I'm enjoying going back through it now.

    People are making mountains out of molehills with ARRs experience. The only thing that needs adjusting is skill acquisition balance, since it's been pruned at low levels.


    The questing is fine.
    I'm sorry but you speak for yourself here. Multiple others have described experiences of being dissatisfied with ARR and quitting and in Novice Network I frequently see sprouts complaining about ARR questing, but I have yet to see anyone complaining about HW questing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatatatatata View Post
    I'm sorry but you speak for yourself here. Multiple others have described experiences of being dissatisfied with ARR and quitting and in Novice Network I frequently see sprouts complaining about ARR questing, but I have yet to see anyone complaining about HW questing.
    The questing experience doesn't change that much over the course of the expansions. If they don't like questing in ARR, it'll be a similar experience later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The questing experience doesn't change that much over the course of the expansions. If they don't like questing in ARR, it'll be a similar experience later on.
    Don't bother replying, they're another trollclone. Same outfit/job level spread as Titanmen alts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Don't bother replying, they're another trollclone. Same outfit/job level spread as Titanmen alts.
    Oh I know, but if anyone takes them seriously because they don't, its worth pointing out the flaws.

    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    It's a very different experience later on because you actually have content worth running by then. Heavensward is a pale shadow of its former self, but at least it's not sastasha level until level 40+ (and then back to sastasha tier for Praetorium/Castrum).

    ARR is just a visual novel. A visual novel can be replaced by NG+ or inn room cutscenes if players wish to participate in it.


    I disagree. Sure now the fights and dungeons are super easy. They weren't when it launched. Maybe this stat crunch will make them less face-rolly.
    I remember when most of the early dungeons used to take 30 mins or so. And many of them hurt quite a bit. I got absolutely rekt the first pull of Stone Vigil the first time I did it. A similar thing happened with Dusk Vigil actually. Funny that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I disagree. Sure now the fights and dungeons are super easy. They weren't when it launched. Maybe this stat crunch will make them less face-rolly.
    I remember when most of the early dungeons used to take 30 mins or so. And many of them hurt quite a bit. I got absolutely rekt the first pull of Stone Vigil the first time I did it. A similar thing happened with Dusk Vigil actually. Funny that.

    And this is part of the problem. But I'm not convinced the stat crunch is sufficient in fixing this issue. What will a new player think when they watch a 2 minute cutscene of Gaius and he dies in 30 seconds? It completely takes away the epic-ness of many of the key dungeons and raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatatatatata View Post
    And this is part of the problem. But I'm not convinced the stat crunch is sufficient in fixing this issue. What will a new player think when they watch a 2 minute cutscene of Gaius and he dies in 30 seconds? It completely takes away the epic-ness of many of the key dungeons and raids.
    The same thing new players have been thinking since about 2.1 lol.

    About the only thing i agree with you is that low level dungeons got hit too hard by potency growth. and a lack of ilvl syncs (which people then complain about so......)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The questing experience doesn't change that much over the course of the expansions. If they don't like questing in ARR, it'll be a similar experience later on.
    It's a very different experience later on because you actually have content worth running by then. Heavensward is a pale shadow of its former self, but at least it's not sastasha level until level 40+ (and then back to sastasha tier for Praetorium/Castrum).

    ARR is just a visual novel. A visual novel can be replaced by NG+ or inn room cutscenes if players wish to participate in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatatatatata View Post
    I'm sorry but you speak for yourself here. Multiple others have described experiences of being dissatisfied with ARR and quitting and in Novice Network I frequently see sprouts complaining about ARR questing, but I have yet to see anyone complaining about HW questing.
    The people that complain about ARR questing on Novice Network are the more often than not the people that are literally rushing and skipping every cutscene and bit of dialogue to "get to the endgame" and "git gud". Much like the rest of the game, if you don't enjoy ACTUALLY reading through the story, then ARR isn't the problem here.
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