ARR needs two simple fixes until an actual revamp

[Puremallace]

It already got revamped and Yoshi P already stated they dont plan on making further adjustments.

I think the expectation of certain parts of the MMO community is that ARR should reflect similar quality to Shadowbringers honestly. It is just a thing. One big example I keep seeing is people comparing it to SWToR story without the voice acting which I think is accurate.

It is just a lot of reading for people with ADD.

Have you done ARR since they trimmed it down? I am currently on level 46ish MSQ on my alt and I can say it is MILES better than it was, much less fetching pointlessly it feels like. Overall the pace feels much nicer so far and I am really enjoying it. The reason people suggest to Asmon to boost is because the guy doesn't care about story, he has said as much in his streams. If you are a player that doesn't like story and only cares for the raiding aspect. Then boosting past level 50 where the combat is slower is not such a bad idea for that individual.

No but get the general idea for sure of what they changed and my points still remain. You have to remember I also keep up on the Twitch, Youtube, Redd and Twitter scene of how people respond to ARR. When LITERALLY every new player is being told to buy a boost through ARR we got a serious issue with the base game.

Even massive fans are telling people to boost which I find to be extremely silly when you realize what they are skipping in relation to the expansion they are telling people is super cool.

[elioaiko]

ARR is boring in every sense of the word. Past HW is miles ahead in terms of quality writing and focused narrative.

They should delete all of the fetch quest IMO and streamline the story so newcomers aren't off put by the lengthy downtime between quests. Even with the trim, it's still pretty long. The gameplay is lacking and the overall feel is rather dated.

Saying that it's fine is okay if you already gotten past it, but can you honestly do it all again vs the other expansions? SE wants more players and the game needs more to help the game not fall into irrelevance.

While Yoshi-P has said that they don't plan on changing it further, the more expansions we get, the harder it is for new players to stick around. I've had sprout FC members quit because of how long it was taking and the daunting amount quests he ha to do.

I do love the of story of FFXIV, plenty of WoW players coming over are not used to endgame being locked behind MSQ.

[DontReadThis]

ARR needs a rework. It's a slog. There is a lot of traveling back and forth, and the waking sand tickets are just a poor band-aid fix.

Many of the quests could be cut out by having them rewritten so the characters use their linkpearls more often. Like instead of having someone send us back to the waking sands to pick up the next quest, just have that NPC talk on the linkpearl so they could give us the next quest immediately. They also need to cut down on some of the pointless fetch quest chains.

One of the most memorable offenders was the Garuda quest chain where you're sent to collect a crystal, so you do some chores for someone who informs you once you're done that they have the wrong element of crystal, so they send you to the next person to repeat the same tasks only be told after you do the tasks that they also have the wrong element, so they send you to someone else, and so on. It was memorable for all the wrong reasons!

[Aelin_Ashryver]

So something I am noticing is not only WoW players who come here but long time veteran salty FF14 telling LITERALLY everyone to boost passed ARR. I find this to be incredibly stupid as you skip some of the most important story aspect in the game and the actual introduction to the MMO but it has happened. As we know they trimmed roughly 30% of the ARR grind but we need further changes until we can get an actual full revamp of it.

1. Voice acting. It is seriously lacking. Some of your FF14 players are actual voice actors and will probably do this for free. Just add it already.

2. Reduce the amount of teleporting. Do this by deleting quest that are effectively fetch quest. This makes the world seem small and it is pretty obvious to notice.

These two fixes would help a lot.

Have you done ARR since they trimmed it down? I am currently on level 46ish MSQ on my alt and I can say it is MILES better than it was, much less fetching pointlessly it feels like. Overall the pace feels much nicer so far and I am really enjoying it. The reason people suggest to Asmon to boost is because the guy doesn't care about story, he has said as much in his streams. If you are a player that doesn't like story and only cares for the raiding aspect. Then boosting past level 50 where the combat is slower is not such a bad idea for that individual.

[GeminiReed]

Have you done ARR since they trimmed it down? I am currently on level 46ish MSQ on my alt and I can say it is MILES better than it was, much less fetching pointlessly it feels like.

Sure they trimmed some irrelevant quests and tightened things up a bit but it's still a huge slog.

Paid skips are not the answer. That screams louder than any words that this is irritating by design to make people pay additional money. This is not acceptable.

[Pirana1]

Sure they trimmed some irrelevant quests and tightened things up a bit but it's still a huge slog.

Paid skips are not the answer. That screams louder than any words that this is irritating by design to make people pay additional money. This is not acceptable.

I only started playing this game roughly five weeks ago, and if it wasn't for the story skip on an alt I leveled up, I would have un-subbed. The purchased story skip is certainly not the answer, but one has to ask themselves, time v money, so for me it was worth paying the $11.00 to skip that mundane ARR quest chain, the portion after the two raids, when the xp drops from roughly 45k down to 5k. I know all about the profession swapping, but I'm also not a fan of having one alt. Something certainly does need to be done about that ARR wall, unlikely it'll happen, simply because people do like having alts, it's only eleven dollars and it's an easy money grab for SE.

On topic and regarding the voice over. Do some research on what it costs SWTOR to develop that game. I played there from Beta until last summer and if I recall, the game itself, cost close to $300 million to develop, so the voice acting probably was somewhere in the ballpark of fifty million, give or take. Almost every aspect of that game has voice overs. It's highly unlikely FF14 will go that route. Only a hypothesis though.

[DPZ2]

1. Voice acting. It is seriously lacking. Some of your FF14 players are actual voice actors and will probably do this for free. Just add it already.

Hahahahahahahaha.

No.

The union that voice actors belong to in order to work professionally would not allow it. There's a reason - they expect to be paid current rates for work performed.

[Puremallace]

Hahahahahahahaha.

No.

The union that voice actors belong to in order to work professionally would not allow it. There's a reason - they expect to be paid current rates for work performed.

Look put a dumb mount on the shop and tell the players this money will be used to add voice acting to ARR. I promise you it will sell at a stupid pace. People want ARR upgraded to later quality unless Square Enix wants to sit here and tell us they make more money from people boosting passed it to Hevaensward or later.

Take my word if the second part is the strategy then it is incredibly dumb move for short term money.

[Penthea]

Look put a dumb mount on the shop and tell the players this money will be used to add voice acting to ARR. I promise you it will sell at a stupid pace.

So you're saying SE should start some sort of kickstarter campaign through their store to get voice acting sorted out? Seriously? I would only purchase a thing I don't want if it would be for a good cause like a charity. Not because SE won't give extra money to FFXIV they can easily afford to hire some voice actors.

I would like ARR improved but not like this. I'm sorry but your ideas for fixes just don't match up with how a big company like SE does and should work.

[Lanadra]

Even SWTOR cheapens out on voice acting a lot. I know that the Huttese is a favorite way of theirs to cheese the voice acting while still being able to say 'everything is voiced'.. the Huttese being generally reused gibberish that literally is just there to ensure a character has a voice.