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    Ftail's Avatar
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    How dare people want to look up what is essentially a partial resume of your raid history so they can make an informed conclusion.

    The irony is hidden logs are actually viewed more negatively.
    I've never understood this sort of philosophy of only inviting people with FFlogs as I have them hidden. I haven't savage raided since Stormblood since they butchered SCH and haven't had a static since then. I've been playing SCH since 2.0 release, but I've rarely ever been asked for my FFlogs, instead most static groups asked me to come as a trial member for the week and depending on my DPS and my ability to do the mechanics I was granted a spot in the raid group if I did well. Only once I've failed to join a static this way, it was for Turn 5 of Twintania before the couple of nerfs and the echo buff to it.

    FFlogs gives you a heads up as to what kind of experience someone has, but I remember being in a static where the BLM was the only member who uploaded logs. He would cherry pick logs on all fights, if we killed something 20 times he would have only 2 logs of it where he did well. Meanwhile he would stand in aoe's and make it frustrating to do a fight while healing him. If FFlogs uploaded every single clear from every single person in the game, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

    My thing is if you want to recruit someone to a static try giving them a try and see how they do instead of declining giving them a chance based off of FFlogs.
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I've never understood this sort of philosophy of only inviting people with FFlogs as I have them hidden. I haven't savage raided since Stormblood since they butchered SCH and haven't had a static since then. I've been playing SCH since 2.0 release, but I've rarely ever been asked for my FFlogs, instead most static groups asked me to come as a trial member for the week and depending on my DPS and my ability to do the mechanics I was granted a spot in the raid group if I did well. Only once I've failed to join a static this way, it was for Turn 5 of Twintania before the couple of nerfs and the echo buff to it.

    FFlogs gives you a heads up as to what kind of experience someone has, but I remember being in a static where the BLM was the only member who uploaded logs. He would cherry pick logs on all fights, if we killed something 20 times he would have only 2 logs of it where he did well. Meanwhile he would stand in aoe's and make it frustrating to do a fight while healing him. If FFlogs uploaded every single clear from every single person in the game, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

    My thing is if you want to recruit someone to a static try giving them a try and see how they do instead of declining giving them a chance based off of FFlogs.
    Different groups different tastes, different expectations nothing wrong with rejecting people regardless of how arbitrary.

    My group has slowly shifted to ultimate clear/experience only are allowed to join from simply tryouts and first come first served.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 07-02-2021 at 03:13 PM.

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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I've never understood this sort of philosophy of only inviting people with FFlogs as I have them hidden. I haven't savage raided since Stormblood since they butchered SCH and haven't had a static since then. I've been playing SCH since 2.0 release, but I've rarely ever been asked for my FFlogs, instead most static groups asked me to come as a trial member for the week and depending on my DPS and my ability to do the mechanics I was granted a spot in the raid group if I did well. Only once I've failed to join a static this way, it was for Turn 5 of Twintania before the couple of nerfs and the echo buff to it.

    FFlogs gives you a heads up as to what kind of experience someone has, but I remember being in a static where the BLM was the only member who uploaded logs. He would cherry pick logs on all fights, if we killed something 20 times he would have only 2 logs of it where he did well. Meanwhile he would stand in aoe's and make it frustrating to do a fight while healing him. If FFlogs uploaded every single clear from every single person in the game, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

    My thing is if you want to recruit someone to a static try giving them a try and see how they do instead of declining giving them a chance based off of FFlogs.
    I'm pretty sure what Forte meant was to get a partial hindsight of how a player actually performing instead of just plainly seeing their numbers and decide solely based on them. The log doesn't always tell full story because some reasons that the others had already mentioned in previous replies.
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Yeah, I'm gonna set that stuff to hidden.

    I find it extraordinarily creepy that people look into year old logs just to win a forum argument. Stalker behavior, yo.
    You can't hide that you are not playing well. What you can do you show them that you can be a lot better than the whiny insecure ppl who are complaining about someone else making a mistake. Those are the ppl who are giving their all but can't reach any heights and that pent-up frustration is then thrown at anyone they decide.
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