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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Staribbon Xu
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    Maduin
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    This game doesn't do enough to help people clear Ex/Savage content.

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    I'm getting sick of seeing it everywhere.

    How am I supposed to clear these things when no one will help me finish them in the first place? On the rare occasion that I find a party that doesn't pull this crap, they kick me out after two attempts because "YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!?"

    Please don't tell me to set [Practice]. 8 people throwing themselves miserably at a fight and breaking up after 10 minutes doesn't help anything.

    Squeenix needs to do something about this instead of making me wait until two expansions later to actually finish the content.
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    Make. Your. Own. Party.
    If you can't clear it, then you probably need more practice. Surprise. Stop waiting for others to carry you through something you're not ready for.
    Should probably ask friends or FC to help if literally no one is joining.
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Savage tends to have the most activity when a tier drops. While it's possible to find practice parties later, most have already gotten what they've needed from it by now so you're going to be fighting an uphill battle.

    I'm sure you'll get a chance to push into it if you keep at it, but pretty much all you can do is check the Balance (or other related sources) for the best class information you can get, continue to improve yourself, and keep forming/joining parties as you are able.
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    Neihel Aberola
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    you're not supposed to join reclear parties if you've never cleared the fight, the filter you don't like is there for a good reason
    if you got kicked after 2 attempts which btw is unusual because normally people are more generous then clearly you've shown them that you did not know the fight
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    Make. Your. Own. Party.
    Players can set whatever conditions for joining that they like, and OP can too.
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    they kick me out after two attempts because "YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!?"
    I assume this was a farm party then, if they expected you to have finished the fight? They probably should have put restrictions, in that case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neihel View Post
    you're not supposed to join reclear parties if you've never cleared the fight, the filter you don't like is there for a good reason
    if you got kicked after 2 attempts which btw is unusual because normally people are more generous then clearly you've shown them that you did not know the fight
    When I was more active with extremes, I've seen parties like these where nobody will speak up about anything, until after a couple wipes when the tension starts getting high, and then, only then, after a couple wipes will they will start admitting to issues like not knowing certain mechanics, etc.

    I am not saying the OP did that either. Whoever formed that party in the PF should have put clear restrictions if they actually expected to farm, or get an easy clear at the least. Without certain restrictions, players will join PF regardless of whatever is put in the PF description, that's why they are needed. Even with the restrictions it still doesn't guarantee a clear of any sort. At least back when I did Extremes more often, they require a certain level of teamwork, effort, and a knowledge of (most) mechanics, maybe not as much as Savage, but it's still required to an extent.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-12-2021 at 02:45 PM.
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    MPK's Avatar
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Please don't tell me to set [Practice]. 8 people throwing themselves miserably at a fight and breaking up after 10 minutes doesn't help anything.
    You expect 7 people to carry you?
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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    You expect 7 people to carry you?
    That's an idea! Square enix should start giving free monthly subs to people that carry others through Savage and Ultimates.

    The casuals are carried. The good players are rewarded. And you combat RMT all in one fell cleave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    That's an idea! Square enix should start giving free monthly subs to people that carry others through Savage and Ultimates.

    The casuals are carried. The good players are rewarded. And you combat RMT all in one fell cleave.
    No.. no.. According to interviews, they are expecting players to carry others, and pay their sub for the experience. 24mans, 48mans..
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Yes, make a [Practice] party. If you want people to be at a certain phase (such as past the first few mechanics), say that in the description.

    If you want more competent players, it can help to increase the item level requirement. It's currently easy to get item level 520 on a fresh level 80, but most people won't unless they are generally being competent.
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