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  1. #71
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    Ariel_Valmont's Avatar
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    Bella Ciao
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    It’s interesting how a majority of folk who have harsh opinions against parsers and their general use are people who have either no experience in higher tier content or people who have deep, deep gray parses to show off.
    Higher tier content isn’t hard, it just takes a group of people and time.
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  2. #72
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Higher tier content isn’t hard, it just takes a group of people and time.
    Technically, no, it’s not. But it’s also not something a lot of players in this game could ever manage because they simply lack the knowledge and ability. These players are also a lot of the times the same players that do not wish to better themselves and think their freestyle gameplay should be acceptable. I’m not referring to people that actively would try to get better to clear said content.
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  3. #73
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    A parser isn’t going to help them with that.
    a (hypothetical and "official" parser) would show them - and everyone else in the party - that they were the ones playing bad, though
    it would show players that their damage is bad and that they'd need to improve it, it'd show arrogant players that boast about their insane damage - while they're doing less than the two healers - that they're in fact dragging everyone else down and hopefully make them rethink their behaviour and get them to improve their performance
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  4. #74
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Yeah it's related to a damage meter addon with which you can see the damage/heal you do and your group does. Speaking about it ingame and harassing people with it is a bannable offense not to mention that it is in general against the ToS. But as usual if you don't speak about it not much will happen but SE is enforcing their rules if people get reported for posting the numbers in group chat etc, even if a person asked you about it and you posted them in their request you most likely can get banned cause of this.
    Calling it an addon is disingenous.

    It's a third party program that sniffs out the packets the game sends and receives, then parses the combat data.

    That's all it does. Parse the combat log by packet sniffing.
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  5. #75
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    I have to agree, reading up on your job's abilities and looking up a guide and the like does wonders, so I'm not against that per say but all I see here in terms of parsing is self-righteousness and toxicity/ name calling and I'm very much against that.

    Unfortunately, you can't have one without the other. Just look at this forum.
    Classic damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. The current circumstances are the best YP could have done.

    Fortunately, the actual XIV is really nice!
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  6. #76
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Higher tier content isn’t hard, it just takes a group of people and time.
    Sure it's not rocket science but if something takes time, practice and research to be able to do well it's not exactly super easy. I never understood the argument that something isn't difficult because all you have to do is put effort in and work for it.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Higher tier content isn’t hard, it just takes a group of people and time.
    You are right. Though the problem is due to the low barrier of entry across the board. The game hardly does anything to push players to strive to become better. Sadly not many do harder content or try to improve without a reason. I do think that if SE slowly gave reason to players to improve they would and we could slowly raise the bar in terms of difficulty especially when it comes to being personally accountable for ones actions within a group.
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  8. #78
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariel_Valmont View Post
    Higher tier content isn’t hard, it just takes a group of people and time.
    Idk, my first savage was hard for me. If there wasn't a youtube guide it would have taken me more than one day to learn the mechanics.
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  9. #79
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    they're in fact dragging everyone else down and hopefully make them rethink their behaviour and get them to improve their performance
    Yeah, there's a low chance of that happening. I just don't see it, with the majority of these players.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-13-2021 at 11:34 PM.
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Overall parsers are used by those who focus on end game content such as Savage and up. Casuals usually steer clear from them.

    It’s a subject that opens up the proverbial can of worms.
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